Why do NeoAtheists deny the practice of atheism is a religion?<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    in addition, as I said atheism like every other ism has philosophy attached to it, if you do not believe in G/gods then you will not go to church, hence the result of your choice of religion no different than a muslim that would not go to hindu ceremony. atheist apologists hit a brick wall when asked to make the distinctions, they respond with no response at all.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Either you are drinking, smoking, or just plain lacking in comprehension. That actually makes no sense. Try reading my post again. In the past at least you used to be able to make a reasonably credible attempt at misrepresenting what was actually posted but you seem to have now lost even that shred of thinking ability.
     
  3. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    LOL

    I'm an atheist, and don't think about it at all.
    Please tell me of this supposed philosophy I adhere to.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    you cant be serious can you? Nothing in 4 says anything about a deity requirement.
    There is no clear evidence for the big bang, it is purely hypothetical which requires belief with no material facts in support of the belief, it is accepted on faith like any other other religion.

    Why are you avoiding telling us the distinction between the alleged religious versus secular morals?[/QUOTE]
    Why does there have to be a distinction?

    What "religious morals" do you think I would disagree with?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I would hope you disagree with the Muslim idea of murdering Jews to get into heaven
     
  6. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    There's really no response to make. All these religious people you talk about make decisions based on their various religious beliefs. They hold a "faith". They "worship". They accept a notion of a supernatural. Etc.

    An atheist doesn't. That's what the "a" means! Why is that hard for you to handle?

    By the way, I don't see capitalISM, communISM, racISM, etc. as religions, either.

    How about this: Let's remember that there are many Christians who are scientists, and therefore allow no element of their religious belief to enter their work - as per the requirements of science.

    Are they practicing a different religion? Is their work blasphemy or idolatry? Or, are they just helping humanity to better understand how our physical world works?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    lol - I should have known you were lurking around somewhere!

    I was thinking of morals that Kokomo would accept. He seems to think there is some difference between his morals and mine. I don't know why, so I thought I'd ask.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    As an atheist, I think if the only reason someone does good , or behaves, is because they think someone is watching them.

    They scare me.
     
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  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats the main reason atheists have do good, unless of course your name is stalin than you dont even have that reason
     
  10. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    HEY! There is something where I agree with you.

    I'll probably be more accommodating with Kokomo at some point. But, I'll wait until he recognizes that there are actual atheists and agnostics who don't worship or hold a religious type of belief in the supernatural. That is, they don't hold anything like a religion.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Lots of atheists out there that weren't very nice, as there are Christians, and every other religion.
     
  12. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats simply false, 3 and 4 have nothing what so ever to do with supernatural or any deity.
    Of course, you are practicing your atheism right now as we speak by arguing your atheist position.
    They most certainly can be however!
    Secular humanism does no such thing and they are a religion, atheist quakers do no such thing and they are a religion.
    I think its funny as hell that you keep dodging the question:
    so we have 2 groups of people that live according to:

    1) G/god says:
    you dont sass your parents,
    you do not kill,
    you do not steal,
    you do not bang someone elses wife
    etc

    2) Your convictions says:
    you dont sass your parents,
    you do not kill,
    you do not steal,
    you do not bang someone elses wife
    etc

    If number 1 is a religion why isnt number 2 a religion since they have an identical moral structure?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    What's wrong with banging someone else's wife.

    Sorry, but your examples su-k.
    A typical atheist doesn't have a list of things he must do to be a good person.

    It seems like a religious person does.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    stop posting off topic
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You're the one who brought it up.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    God is just a title. All deities have unique names so you should use the name of the specific deity you think you believe in. There are thousand of the critters. It helps to be on the same page when discussing imaginary characters.

    Can you tell us the name of the deity that you think you believe in?
     
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    The name of your god is atheism.
     
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    Hmm....so now you have decided to make up another one?

    This one seems kinda weak....No superpowers, No Miracles, No magic...….I feel jipped.
     
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    tecoyah, you cannot win this argument. No atheist has the logic, the symbols, or the language to disprove that God exists. I am under no obligation to prove that God exists to you.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You lose.

    No one can prove unicorns do not exist either.
    It is not up to anyone to disprove anothers fantasy.
    It is up to the person who invents it, to prove it.
     
  21. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yep they are stumped again, none of them are able to even respond to the point I made:

    Atheists agree that theists God given morals such as (dont kill) are 'religious', and in the same breath deny the same morals are religious when atheists that have adopted them.

    That is highly cognitively dissonant, which is when people believe a position that accepts both sides of a contradictory argument at the same time.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You are not in a position to declare what people believe in or rave about.
    You are just making up your own reality. There are lots of things a typical atheist will not do just because it is wrong.
    Not because it is on some religions, "do not do" list.
     
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  23. JakeStarkey

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    I always win against you. Believe as you wish, and don't worry about others' beliefs. Your self made reality is not others' parameters of existence.
     
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    Actually I have never seen you win an argument with anyone.
    I doubt anyone has.
     
  25. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Jake always wins again you as do I
     
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