Why do NeoAtheists deny the practice of atheism is a religion?<<MOD WARNING>>

So has the Nobel committee called yet? After all, the man who disproved physics is a pretty big deal

 

. . . no. Magnets do not act on objects precisely the same way gravity does. Where are you getting your "science"? Magnetism is based on MASS. Objects with mass attract one another. That is NOT how magnets work, despite what you are trying to claim.

Answered and the answer has been repeatedly dodged.

Que?

No scientist anywhere in the world claims that any device is perfectly accurate in all situations, which is what you were shooting at. Hmm, yet I have a funny feeling you still use a watch, which means you realize your argument is complete nonsense.

Math and physics say you are wrong. If you can prove your case, you will completely revolutionize all of physics. Let me know when you get that prize.

No, what I said was that devices are not perfectly accurate in all situations. Please tell the truth about my posts. Smash a watch with a hammer and it may not work properly. So what? You claim GRAVITY SLOWS DOWN ATOMIC DECAY WITHOUT WARPING TIME. Hell, you claim that ALL TIME-MEASURING MECHANISMS SLOW DOWN IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AT THE SAME RATE RELATIVE TO GRAVITY AND VELOCITY WITHOUT TIME WARPING. You still can't explain how. And you run away every time you are challenged on this point. As you are about to do again.

Yes, time does change. This is a necessary conclusion of the observed fact that the speed of light does not change relative to different inertial frameworks. If the speed of light doesn't change in reference to these frameworks (and it doesn't) while distance does (and it does), then time has to. And it has been observed to do so.

 

So, ignoring the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Ingathering and boiling a young goat in its mother's milk destroys society. Imagine the bad things that happen when people don't break their firstborn donkey's neck because they didn't redeem it with a lamb.

 

Sure. Show me where those are listed in the Ten Commandments.

 

If you want to you can read it for yourself.

Get some blank paper and a pen and start with Exodus chapter 19 and read all through to the end of Exodus chapter 34. Summarize the main points in your own words as you read each verse. You can group the relevant points. Keep careful records of what you read. A major highlight will be Exodus 31:18. Then look back at your notes and you will see that Moses was up and down the mountain like a goat before he got those stone tablets. The laws in Exodus chapter 20:2-17 are not the Ten Commandments and there were not written on the stone tablets nor were they called the Ten Commandments.

The real Ten Commandments are found in Exodus 34:11-28. All of the biblical stories are based on one or more of them. The miracles are based on Exodus 34:10.

If you don't want to do that exercise then watch some videos =

 

Um FALSE

FALSE

FALSE it will only prove einie worshippers are wrong.

yeh use totally absurd examples to distort what I said

you simply worship a FALSE God.

 

Multiple dodges noted. If you'd like to have a serious conversation on the topic, I'm here. I've offered evidence for my position. You've offered literally none at all and have failed to address any of the problems with your position or any of the evidence in favor of the converse. Yes, if you were able to prove your position, you would become a world-famous physicist overnight. That's not happening. Hell, you tried to claim that magnetism and gravity have the same effect on objects when they clearly do not, and that's something they cover in JUNIOR HIGH science class.

 

Stalin
By Doug Bandow
This article appeared in American Spectator (Online) on March 29, 2013.
Joseph Stalin died 60 years ago this month. Yet few people in the U.S. paused to mark the passing of one of history’s greatest mass murderers.
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/stalin-died-60-years-too-late

Yeh and atheists hold the crown for genocide, mass murder, and human rights violations bar non

There is no having a serious conversation with an einee worshiper because they hand wave everything away and climb up on their imaginary mountain. Feel free to actually watch the videos, you have proven to me that you do not comprehend observer physics. I wont waste my time trying to educate you.

I stand by what I said, it is the failure of measurement devices, the rest you made up.

 

Who gives a crap what Stalin did? No one had the guts to blow his brains out and save those millions of people. So if they didn't care I sure don't 60 years after he bit the dust.

 

Pass. Your novel interpretations of the Bible are irrelevant to reality. Most of the laws of the Jews were suspended with Christ, most notably the command to be circumcised. All of the dietary and sacrificial laws were suspended as well. There's nothing in the Ten Commandments about what you must eat or how you must sacrifice. Here are the Ten Commandments:

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.
3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6 “You shall not murder.
7 “You shall not commit adultery.
8 “You shall not steal.
9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

Here they are again from Deuteronomy 5:

6 I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 7 You shall have none other gods before me.

8 You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 You shall not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my Commandments.

11 You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labour, and do all your work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates; that your manservant and your maidservant may rest as well as you. 15 And remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD your God brought you out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.

16 Honour your father and your mother, as the LORD your God has commanded you; that your days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with you, in the land which the LORD your God giveth you.

17 You shall not kill.

18 Neither shall you commit adultery.

19 Neither shall you steal.

20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour.

21 Neither shall you desire your neighbour's wife, neither shall you covet your neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is your neighbour's.

I'm sick and tired of your reinterpretations of scripture to be something they aren't.

 

Jesus specifically says he is not abolishing the old law.

 

Disproving a commercial darling does not earn a nobel prize, it earns a bullet.

FALSE its been proven for over 100 years, einee worshipers simply dont know anything about it. They can do the math but dont understand the physics behind it.

 

I can’t tell if you are just trolling, or if you actually hold the batshit crazy belief you have disproved Einstein and all of physics?

 

Eineeweiner isnt the problem, the severe 'lack' of comprehension of real world physics is the problem, which has clearly been lock step representative of the neoatheist understanding of religion throughout the thread where by definition the neoathiests religion is the practice of dogmatic 'lackerism'.

lacker
Noun
(plural lackers)

1. Lacking, or in want.
   
   https://www.yourdictionary.com/lacker

Theres really nothing I can do to help anyone incapable of comprehending the posted proofs in post number 1856.

 

Yep. Dust off a place on your mantle. That Nobel prize is going to look great there, lol

 

If you bothered to read the thread, I already told you everyone knew that over 100 years ago.


Tesla actually claimed to possess evidence that falsified special relativity. The same 1935 interview says: "He has measured cosmic ray velocities from Antarus ... which he found to be fifty times greater than the speed of light..."

In addition, Tesla claimed to have simple thought experiments that disproved relativity, and he disliked relativity on aesthetic, philosophical, and religious grounds:

And:

every time you plug into a wall outlet you plug into tesla, every time you plug into einee, you plug into strawberry fields for ever

 

what I dont understand is why neoatheists double down by saying I offered no evidence when the fact is I offered proof?

Maybe you simply dont understand the material?

 

Actual physicists have offered my proof . . . none of which you've actually addressed.

If there is something from those videos you'd like to pull out as "proof," have at it.

 

Which is just as moronic a claim as you claiming to have disproven Einstein and all of physics, lol.

 

they didnt offer proof, they offered an attempt to prove theory by a mechanical measuring device that you can not give us the accuracy specs on and guarantee accuracy under any and all conditions.

Yeh the 5 equations that yield the absolute (not relative) number, but you need to understand math to use them.

Relativity-
"The theory, wraps all these errors and fallacies and clothes them in magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king. Its exponents are very brilliant men, but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists. Not a single one of the relativity propositions has been proved." Nikola Tesla


Tesla contradicts a part of the relativity theory emphatically, holding that mass is unalterable; otherwise, energy could be produced from nothing, since the kinetic energy acquired in the fall of a body would be greater than that necessary to lift it at a small velocity.

-Hugo Gernsback, Science and Mechanics, November 1931

that what you claim that I claim which as usual is FALSE and nothing more than made up imagined trash

 

So has the Nobel committee called you yet? Disproving all of physics is a pretty big deal

 

Wrong again. They've used both mathematics and multiple types of measuring devices. Unless gravity slows down all of these devices in exactly the same way, despite having completely different mechanisms (an effect that has to exist if your account is true, but you still haven't explained), without warping time, then we are looking at the relativity predicted

I've brought up math already. The math yields different values for t. That's why we were able to predict relativity before observing it. The absolute number here is the speed of light in a vacuum. The fact that this speed remains constant in all inertial frames of reference (and it does) requires that time be relative instead.

Here, once again, are the basics.

speed = distance/time

The speed of light is a vacuum is constant, regardless of inertial framework. Speed is the same in both frameworks, but distance is different, therefore time has to be different as well.

A quote from a scientist a few decades ago isn't proof of anything. Observation verifies relativity. I asked you for evidence of your claim and all you have offered is two quotes. Also, since there is this little thing called vacuum energy, you may be misreading ol' Hugo there. And Tesla's rejection of relativity involved aether theory . . . which has been debunked with experimentation.

 

Correct... But he also says that he has fulfilled the old law. That law is no longer the path to righteousness. Christ, through his fulfillment of that law, is now the path to righteousness.

 

If you actually mean this mountain of nothing but base fallacies to be a substitute for logic and evidence, that explains a lot. Too bad observation has repeatedly disproved your theory.