Why do we have a fat cigar smoking ignorant and arrogant pig as our treasurer?

True, however I have to assume you did not create the business... As it is YOUR morals and ethics I question it is not the morals and ethics of the people who created the business or actually run the business.

Of course your secure in your own ego. Naturally you think everybody else agrees with you, but it is from your words of blaming everybody else for your own lack. So after all this we can assume your claim that if your eradicate government the poor would be looked after is a lie. Because again you do nothing now except pay the government (in your words) to do it for you...

 

Perhaps you should read your own links. The article does not say anything of the sort but due to your hatred of the fact she has bigger check book than you… You assume that is the fact.

Then why are you???

Who said I was??? Your words simply show your worse and you expect everybody just to agree with you...

Well when you actually start producing something that supports your words then we might actually consider it. At present all you do is show your hatred of people who have it better than you and blame everybody else for your own failings (from your words)

 

I think you are the one who should learn how to read, but you don't like reading about your pin-up girl Gina willing to pay Africans slave wages of under $2 per day, do you.



The part of Mrs Rinehart's speech that drew the widespread criticism was: "The evidence is inarguable that Australia is becoming too expensive and too uncompetitive to do export-oriented business.

"Africans want to work, and its workers are willing to work for less than $2 per day. Such statistics make me worry for this country's future."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/worl...comments-20120906-25fpq.html#ixzz3DQvfKqa5[/u

 

The community admire and respect our business, and it will be around for another 30 years, but even when fat arse Gina donates $millions into the community, the community still hate her for stealing their resources and giving them crumbs back. Not many people with an IQ above 60 like the idea of some greedy, selfish fat-arse stealing their resources, and then trying to pay them back at less than $2 per week for their time and labour..

 

That is correct, government regulation, taxes and high wages/entitlements are crushing the life out of business in Australia.

That is correct, Africans want to work because there is no welfare in Africa. Most Australians don't want to work even if they have a job. $2 a day will go a lot further in Africa than Australia. $1 equals about 9.9 Rand in South Africa so 6 days work would bring in 119 Rand which is enough to feed a family in South Africa if you spend wisely. But I think Gina is still exagerating a little, I don't think any African is WILLING to work for $2 a day but they will if there is no choice.

 

With all due respect, how did Australian businesses manage to operate successfully in the 1960's; 1970's; 1980's; 1990's; 2000's, when they were all exposed to government regulation, taxes and high wages/entitlements? Why is it, just in the last 10 years, this new generation of businesses in Australia have suddenly started to scream they cannot afford to operate in Australia anymore, when they have been exposed to the business environment as previous businesses in previous decades, and the majority of businesses in those previous decades with the same economic exposure survived, but these new generation businesses scream they cannot survive.

Could it simply be that businesses in previous decades took less percentage in profits for their business, but still managed to keep the business operational. Now, instead of businesses accepting a reasonable percentage profit as they did in previous decades, they want and expect profits in the range of 1000% - 5000%, and if they don't get it, they scream high Australian wages, Australian taxes, and Australian regulation is crushing their businesses. The only thing that is crushing the majority of Australian businesses - the ones that are foreign owned, is there insatiable appetite for financial greed and profit at any expense.

If you want to reduce wages to save business costs, then you have to be prepared to reduce the cost of everything else in society along with reducing wages, because reducing one without the other is simply nonsense.

Unfortunately, that's what that greedy fat pig Rinehart wants to do. She wants to reduce human wages to a slave level, but NOT decrease the cost of anything else like housing and food to match the new low wage levels.

She is such a greedy fat B.I.T.C.H, that has never had to work a minute in her fat life, that she honestly believes human beings can survive on $2 per week, but even worse still, she believes that human beings SHOULD give 40 hours of their time & labour for $2 per week or 0.05 cents per hour, to make her even wealthier. Does that not border on Megalomania? And yet we have this psycho, telling our psycho PM what is in the best interest for the country and its citizens - we are F_U_C_K_E_D big time!!

 

Hang on mate, I'll just wipe the spittle off the inside of my monitor.....

 

Any business in Australia who tries to blame Australian wages for their business not succeeding, or for a reason why they have gone off-shore to manufacture - are just compete liars. The majority of Australian businesses do succeed and prosper paying Australian wages, and the businesses who complain about high Australian wages, are greedy foreign owned companies who are not satisfied with obtaining business profit percentages in the 100's; they want them in the 1000's, and to get them in the 1000's they abandon Australia and it people for cheap human labour in other countries. We need to draw a line under this concept right now, because Australian labour wages have never made a business unprofitable.

Of course with fat-arse Rinehart, she has too much financial investment in Australia to just up and leave, so her plan is to bring in as much foreign 457 visa cheap human labour for her slave camps as she can get away with.

 

The community might respect the business, but again as I say "...I have to assume you did not create the business... As it is YOUR morals and ethics I question it is not the morals and ethics of the people who created the business or actually run the business." So unless you get your hands on the business I would assume it will be around for another 30 years, however, not if you actually begin to have a say.

So again it is YOUR moral and business ethics I question without any substantial rebuttal... Which is obvious due to your inability to understand the basics about business. In other words, your riding on the coat tails of people who actually know what they are doing.

I assume you have less than a 60 IQ as your assumptions of what she said and your conclusions of such show, YOU really don’t understand how business works and what is being said.

 

Here again we see, there is NO WAY you run a business. You don't even know the basics...

 

No. I said her lack of moral & ethical concern for another human being "willing" to work for $2 per day, clearly demonstrates she would be "willing" to pay these people $2 per day to work in her slave mines over paying individuals a correct and proper wage for their labour, time and resources. Did your pin-up girl say she would be "willing" to pay them MORE than $2 a per day?

I also believe the links enclosed is enough evidence to support my accusation of selfishness and greed against your pin-up girl Gina, who wanted to import 1700 foreign 457 visa workers to her slave mines, rather than hiring Australian workers.

Gee mate, your pin-up girl Gina is really supporting Australians and the Australian community by preferring to hire foreign 457 visa workers, rather than financially supporting Australian workers.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3511601.htm
http://www.letsspreaditaround.com.au/mythbusters/myth-2-australians-arent-willing-or-able-do-work
http://www.letsspreaditaround.com.au/our-campaign/its-our-work
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...57-visa-loophole-reopened-20140311-34kgr.html

Seems the credibility of your pin-up girl Gina being Australia's community "hero" is starting to fall down around your ears. LOL

 

I will give you a very basic lesson in business economics, and its a business philosophy and methodology our businesses share with Rinehart, but a philosophy & methodology that seems to have been missing from the intellect of our countries political leaders for decades. You "cannot" generate profits, when a business/government sells off all its major profit making assets. Ask Gina if she has sold off all her major profit making assets, or does she still own them, and generating profits from them.

 

Clearly you now want to change what you said because your link does not support your claim. I posted your quote which you now say is WRONG???

Just to one more time to get it right....

Where is the word "WILLING"???

Again you would believe wrong.

What a joke... You have posted no links to support your premise that these workers actually receive less than equivalent Australian workers(you the award wage for job). You post no evidence of the cost of hiring people on 457 visas and no evidence of these workers taking jobs from Australians. Again your lack of any business ethics show you have no idea how hard it is to find people who will do the job you hire them for in Australia.

Again got evidence??? No??? As it seems your own morals and ethics seem to take a hit from your own words...

 

In case you did not notice, Australian government is not a business.

Here is where your basic lesson shows your have no idea what you’re talking about. The greatest profit making assets of the government is the tax payer... I know that is something you don't seem to understand because you don't realise wages are a cost of doing business.

So apparently your business philosophy and methodology has missed one very important thing, what the core business is...

 

If you would like to read post #78. The first sentence, word 23 is "willing". I think you need to read what is written, and comprehend the content before you reply.

These are "your" words: "...You post no evidence of the cost of hiring people on 457 visas and no evidence of these workers taking jobs from Australians." But evidence has been shown that 457 foreign visa workers are coming to Australia, and taking Australian jobs.

 

How can a successful business like mine that started in 1960, and expanded into another town in the mid 1990's, compete with the economic opinions of a genius like you...


How many individuals are actually using the "toon" character Garry17? I have counted three distinct and different personalities. Its like conversing with someone who has Dissociative Identity Disorder and Schizophrenia at the same time

 

How dare you self-righteously question my husbands morals and ethics, when you sanctimoniously hide in cyberspace, and use another persons online character to attack other people like a rabid dog.

You are a moral and ethical wasteland, and don't have the credibility or intellect to question, or make a judgement on any ones character.

The next time you attempt to blow smoke up someone's arse to satisfy your desperate desire to be acknowledged; at least have the courtesy to put your fat hand into your purse and pay them for the privilege - sweetheart.

No response wanted or require!!


Gretchen.

 

Really, we should comprehend the content before we post??? Perhaps you should take your own advice. Nothing you have posted has provided evidence of anything you have said. Even your articles about Rinehart are discussing the competitiveness of Australia in a global market yet you draw a different conclusion from EVERYBODY else. One really does wonder if you are involved in any way in a business…

As for your evidence of 457 visa's Unions crying because it has no relevance to the 457 visa workers is not evidence of anything. So post the evidence, or don't you have anything but sensationalistic drivel you draw completely different conclusions to than the rest of the planet???

 

Oh, I am sorry that your feelings are hurt, but I must ask, What happened to the OUR??? Suddenly it is your business??? Somehow, I don’t think so.

Yes, it must really be hurting, All you have is this??? Surely you can do better than that, no??? Well, I guess that is what is expected when you have nothing.

I guess you realise your lesson is wrong...

 

Oh dear You poor thing The truth obviously hurts.

But it is YOUR husband who is making the statements that require backing and show total lack of any moral or ethical credibility. If you don't like it maybe you should change it...

After all, it is you people who gladly do nothing to assist the poor yet you want everybody else too, BY your words...

Yes, the truth obviously hurts, which is not my problem but yours... Hypocrisy stands demonstrated.

 

Don't worry about small minds. We may not always agree and have come close to blows, but from what I have read, it's people like you and businesses like yours which are the background of Australia. I think you know I know that.

Gary has demonstrated over and over again he has no argument except argument. He just will try and rip apart any person who disagrees with his words.

You I believe are bigger than he. Nothing to see here.

 

Time to kill two birds with one stone I believe.

I write on these pages in attempt to make people think. So far I believe I have been very successful, even with CD. Yeah, I swept him from pillar to post over his comments but the fact remains that I made many assumptions based entirely on his comments which stand completely unrefuted. If you have not noticed I have not once condemned ANY business action of anybody. BUT I do condemn the words of the person who attempts to vilify other business for actions his business also carries out. Basically the hypocrisy of attempting to hold everybody else to a higher standard than himself.

Now, I can safely say I wiped the floor with him from pillar to post due to the fact he finishes with nothing but insult due to the fact he cannot refute my claim. Hurt (and we all know you feel his pain) he has decided to resign here and create subterfuge over the discussion in another thread in attempt to justify his stand…

No, read back and you will see the truth of this statement.
BUT will he now consider his comments and opinions??? You bet, and the jury is still out about if it is for the good or bad since this little gem…

Now as this has been used more in a historical sense rather than the way you attempt to use it only time will tell how it used in the future if he finds it acceptable as some type of justification as you have.

Now he could actually use his grey matter like you, That is use it simply to find ways to attack and snipe at others who have obviously bested you or he could actually use it to consider his opinion against his prejudices. Either way, I still hold him in higher regard than you.

Who was the target of this vile racist rant I wonder??? CD???

Oh, how the worm turns… Or should I say squirms??? Little bit of over compensation going on here???

But then this gem…

What Amuses me is the irony of making such a statement in a thread created by you which is nothing but argument attacking a person, who cannot defend themselves, rather than the policy… And you wonder why I criticise your self-proclaimed superior intellect.

Oh, the two birds, you chomp at the bit every time I point to your self-proclaimed superior education and intellect. Just as you, I have prejudices; one of them is NOT tolerating the “willing stupid.” How can I say that??? On what planet, in which universe do you think, when your stupidity is being questioned, do believe telling people you’re a university graduate with no less than 3 degrees is demonstration of anything other than monumental stupidity??? An analogy, if a person is carrying around a certificate of sanity to prove he is sane every time somebody states he is a nutter…

Think about it, After all you’re the university graduate with no less than 3 degrees…

 

With all due respect, you are a very confused & conflicted individual. You made personal erroneous accusations against me and my business based on no factual evidence, and you expect everyone to believe the biased opinions created in your own mind to be the truth. Below demonstrates you are a pathological liar, by you advocating you don't condemn "any" business, but four of your previous posting prove otherwise.

These are your words, post 98: "... If you have not noticed I have not once condemned ANY business action of anybody."

In post 63 you state: "...Actually you do rip people off; by exploiting the loop-holes in the tax system you reduce the amount of income the Government have to look after the poor, elderly and infirmed. So really you're saying you pay the government to look after your conscience and reducing the amount you contribute to that while demanding others to pay the full price..."

In post 65 you state: "... When you say you cannot source or manufacture within Australia you are really saying “when you cannot manufacture or source products at a price you decide is reasonable” and I am sure you make NO effort to insure anything other than quality from those prices because it is obvious from what has been said you don’t really care."

In post 69 you state: "...I do not put you in the same moral or ethical standards, either personally or business. If you have not noticed I place you far below her standards by your own comments. I know your type; I come across them all the time."

In post 73 you state: "...Fortunately MOST business people in Australia have far greater moral and ethics than you demonstrate here. Under a less corrupted capitalist system your business acronym would find you broke and destitute very quickly, unlike many businesses in Australia."


You need to seek help. Lifeline Australia. 13 11 14

 

And you wondered WHY I took you to task.

I made MANY assumptions of YOU.

Do you really suggest you speak for all business in Australia??? Your very first comment clearly demonstrates you don't. If you read every comment made they are directed at YOU and nobody else... Isn't that why you are so upset about being labelled below Gina Rinehart???

I had such great hope for you but obviously DV has a mate. Lurking in the back ground until you think you can put a shot in. It has not worked out too well for DV, I hope it does for you... Still at least I can say... "I made you think"