Why do you believe in God ?

Which you stated as fact, which is why you were challenged.

You still don’t seem to understand that this is a debate forum. When you make assertions, you will be called on it. Just word your posts differently, and you won’t be.

 

There is that reverse projection again, claiming you see in others exactly what you do yourself. Making accusations that you only wish were true to make you and your myth worshipping seem logical and true.

You truly should come out into the real world, educate yourself in reality, stop with the projections and realize that the world is not just as you want it. Even though you claim it was made perfect by this gawd of yours. A claim containing clear evidence of its own falseness.

BTW, you have attacked any who dare to disagree with you, tried to insult them and made false comments about the3ir intelligence and reasoning ability. In turn, you have invited the same type of response be made to you. You would seem to be the one "a brick shy of a full load".

 

I understand it is a debate forum rather than an attack forum. In a debate you state your side. What is your belief? Why are we here? What is our purpose? Let's hear your beliefs and I will offer a response to your beliefs.

 

Reverse projection....educate yourself....thems some pretty tall words coming from an elitist that ridicules bty refering to my Lord as "gawd". Calling the One millions worship as "myth worshipping". You come here to a thread about belief, and attack others with out stating your own. That is the actions of an "elitist coward" who views "indoctrination " as "education". You are here attacking my beliefs because you feel theatened of course. Too cowardly to state your beliefs as to why we our here and our purpose.

 

Never have you shown where I attacked anyone. I just defend what I believe. You attack those beliefs. That is why you are here, The only reason. You have not responded once to the question of the thread. Your ignorance to anything I have said is obvious when you say things like I said gawd.....God made the world perfect. However He did in the beginning giving mankind a choice and again that is what I believe.

 

I believe that...... God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whoever would believe in Him would not perish but have everlasting life. An invitation to all. That is what I believe.

 

That nice and likely to be comforting to you but there is also zero evidence to back up your believes.

 

Yep, a sweet little feel-good story there from yabbs

Too bad there still isn't even a speck of credible evidence to support it...

 

and yours if you have any?? chance??

 

It's my belief. Are you too cowardly to state yours? Chance?

 

It is what I believe is the purpose we are here. Are you too cowardly to put forward your beliefs? Are we victims of chance here to be exploited by the most powerful among us? We drug ourselves out of the mirey clay so what happens to us is of no consequences? Eat drink and be merry tomorrow we die? Speak up or shut up!

 

If it gives you comfort..that’s great! I feel the same way about my good luck earrings

 

I was applying the Occam razor concept long before I ran into the term in reading the bible as a child.

The results was my rejecting about the same amount of the bible stories as President Jefferson did in his editing out the supernature elements in the new testament to end up with the Jefferson bible.

It was indeed wonderful when I did run into both Jefferson and Paine writings and then knew I was not alone in rejecting the suppernature when it come to religion.

 

So you need to believe in some very very unlikely super being for you to get any enjoyment out of your life!!!!!!

A super being that in human terms is a monster in fact?

I remember as a child laying at night in a hammock looking at the stars and wondering how many strange eyes on other planets was doing the same at that very moment with our sun being one of the stars they are looking at in turn.

The universe is both wonderful and strange that we all find ourselves in for a brief moment without the need to made up human type gods.

If you need a super being to give you a reason for living more power to you even if I do not understand such a need and any such christian type god would for me not add but would instead subtract and limit the wonders of the universe.

 

It gives me comfort....and that's great for me. Not so for you or you wouldn;t be on this particular thread trying to refute my beliefs.

 

So your life was made without any purpose. You are a creature of chance that crawled out of the mud and are just doomed to a short life. Sorry, I find I am much more than that. Your reasoning brings out justification for political purges, the immdeiate grativfication for rape murder and mayhem. You would not be a very good odd-maker so I hope you never gamble. The chances of us just being here by chance, contemplating everything we do, is a complete long shot. You still believe in the tooth fairy? You have a better chance of Santa coming down your chimney tonight..
If you ever come upon a chance to talk to someone who really sought out and understand the scriptures, take them up on it. Just for entertainment at first. You might be surprised. These modern day atheist sites have a lot to say, but nothing ever fits. They make stuff up.

 

George Washington never fully trusted Jefferson for the reason you wrote about. Jefferson read the Koran and rejected entirely. He read the Word of God and saw its importance, but felt a need to modify it in order to feel more accepted by certain agnostic Christians like Thomas Paine. Jefferson followed Paine to France to participate in the French Revolution. When he realized it was a godless effort, unlike the American Revolution, he came home and Paine ended up in prison. It is my belief Jefferson came more in line to thinking with Adams before he was on his death bed.,,,,,that is Jesus Christ is just the loving Creator He said He is.

 

Strange strange version of history you had come up with and Paine used his time in the French prison not knowing if he would be beheaded at any time to write his anti bible book 'the age of reason'.

Off hand I do not think of anyway you could call Paine a Christian of any type.

Suggest you download a copy of that master piece of human reasoning.

Next here is Jefferson comment concerning Jesus being the son of god story. Take note this was late in his life, in fact written just three years before his death so there is no indication at all that he change his mind in his late years.

Oh I love your comment that the bible is the word of god unlike the Koran!!!!!!!

Footnote for amusement since you did bring up George Washington and trust get ahold of the book title 'George Washington expense account' by a CPA written in the 60s.

 

I don't care to supply you with my beliefs as you would only turn and attack them. As is you just make stuff up and attack with that.

I don't state many of my beliefs because I don't care if any agree with them to validate them. You, on the other hand, seem to only care if others will abide by your beliefs and false statements. I have in this thread stated some of my beliefs only to have you ignore them and say that they mean something that only you can imagine.

Pursue the truth and perhaps we can further discuss this.

 

Actually, the only elitist here is you, claiming elite status because of your beliefs. Then trying to play word games that totally expose you as the poser that you are.

If you actually paid any attention to the written word you would seen no attack, just a rejection of your beliefs. You, of course, cannot stand that you cannot dominate and intimidate others who can actually think for themselves to follow your beliefs.

As I stated earlier in this thread, I have no belief in this "god" or "gawd" of yours with any respect toward this nothing.

Believe as you will, it is of no consequence as I believe it to be worthless and self deceptive of you. As for "threatened", how is that when I have repeated stated a lack of belief in your beliefs? You seem to claim I am threatened by nothing while I claim you worship nothing.

 

You know, a little comprehension of facts is not excluded by your religious claim but that is what you have continued to do. You continue to make up reasons that are false for the actions of others to cover your own failures to prove what you believe. And you fixate on any word (gawd) that offends your sense of desire to have such a creature exist. I simply don't believe in it and have stated so many times. You continue to fail to see that or deny I have stated it. Lies, which is why you are not believed.

 

Just because you state what you claim as your beliefs does not give you authority to demand others to attempt to force others to do the same.

It would appear that you have doubts in your own beliefs and just want someone, anyone to confirm your beliefs for you.

 

I would suggest you get the book". George Washingtons Sacred Fire" byPeter A. Lillback. It's a National best seller and may have a little too much documented information for you to digest. It may also fly against what you already have decided to believe.

 

If I had doubts about my beliefs, I would not stand against the tides of godless that dominate this thread. You and others have claimed this is a debate forum. There are two sides to a debate. I express what I believe and you attack it. You do not express your alternative belief. That is not a debate. It is the act of a coward.

 

So, as I have stated, you are a terrible odds maker. It takes a far greater act of supernatural configurations to believe our world is an accident than to believe there is an intelligent Creator that was motivated to Create as we are. Better chance for Santa to come down your chimney tonight.