Why do you still support Trump?

You said these places could do what they want.....you are wrong once again.

 

I have never claimed to be a conservative.

 

Never in the history of this country has a President undermined the credibility of the intelligence agencies and the FBI so much.

Besides, Trump did it for the benefit of a foreign power hostile to the Americans.

 

They have done a fine job of ruining their own credibility.

How did Russia benefit? And, what about the sanction Trump has placed on Russia?

 

Straight answer without debating your points ... the alternative is worse in spite of Trump's flaws and personality. The alternative is worse.

 

It's odd that those that constantly call Trump a dictator criticize him when he doesn't take unilateral measures.

 

At the beginning of Obama's term we were losing 100's of thousands jobs per month, by the end we were gaining as much. For some reason repubs don't like this.

 

Trump is better than Biden on the Environment

 

Most conservatives predictably feel most liberals should be committed. It's only fair, keeping them from harming themselves.

 

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And vice versa .. Not much good on either side I am afraid.

 

Obama created a part time jobs economy and worse changes under Obama care meant that part time workers got less hours and less money than before contributing among other thing to flat wage growth, the weakest economic recovery since we quit calling them panics instead of recessions. Under Trump more jobs became full time, and wages began to increase with lowest wage earners seeing the biggest increases.

 

There is no lie Democrats won't keep telling no matter how often it is debunked.

 

Cathartic, yes, but only if you vent your spleen only once and save it for multiple later use.

Now if only I can remember where I saved all those replies to a troll this fracking dumb. Dang. Gotta wing it.

Rote-propaganda, in search of gullible minds. Fling it at a wall, see what sticks. No rinse, just repeat.

 

I think what he meant to say is that there is no complete cure for poverty but it makes me look great trying to cure it.,

 

I can give you two big ones. The first is his incredible overspending. The second one was pushing for an economic shutdown. I won't forgive him for either one. Feel better now?

 

There is a hardcore residue of emotionally-driven zealots, principally but not exclusively, older, less-educated, evangelical White males, who are fanatical in their partisan zealotry, strikingly antithetical to the prevailing sentiment of Americans of a broad swath of demographic indexes, utterly impervious to reason.

These aberrants cannot tolerate any reference to fallibility in their foul deity, nor resist the compulsion to rage hysterically at anyone who finds him wanting and challenges his majesty in any respect.

They find no inconsistency whatever in the stark contrast between their lord and master's braying such spurious and thoroughly invalidated inanities as his repeated claims that the coronavirus is "going away!" and the empirical reality that the United States has now become the pandemic's global frontrunner under his purported leadership.

They fume at surveys of public sentiment such as http://pollingreport.com/trump_ad.htm, https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html. and https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo and yet can offer no alternative metrics that reflect their dogmatic devotion.

Public opinion is not measured in fantasyland.

 

Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Typical.

 

The Trumpsters are so fanatical, they accept that a fraudster would discredit an organization that has been protecting the country for 80 years.

How many members of the so-called Deep State have been indicted by the Trump administration?

Zero.

They're a joke.

Putin publicly stated that Trump was his candidate, that he had mandated his secret service to help him in his campaign.

 

President Trump will not be known as the "food stamp" President. I can see why you choose to ignore the list.

 

Try saying the N-word for one. I'd say that's the word that started it all. I also see where the English Navy has banned the use of the words manpower and seamen. It's a thousand little PC cuts.

 

My point exactly.

 

And a bit of "the more you tell me not to do something, the more apt I am to do it" when it comes to democrats and liberals, just so certain they are right and how could you possibly be against that, you, you....you morally bad person.

 

Sorry to say, I doubt your last statement totally. I believe you are looking for concession and confirmation- not understanding. IF you had a better grasp of the points you are listing, your entire perspective would change.

Great coaches and leaders win games- but when half the players are off on a delusional tangent, the problem is NOT the leadership- it's the incapacity of the people who should be following.
Small, spoiled children and the mentally immature adults they grow into expect somebody else to deliver what can only be done for themselves, by themselves. They think society is the new parent or nanny.
Regardless of your mentality, you and you alone are responsible for you- everything you say, do, think or feel. If you refuse to accept that, you will presume that someone else is manipulating you, failing you, and that the only option to regulate and fix your own life is to mess with someone else's until they agree to make you happy. In fact they can't, but because you give them the responsibility you will not accept- they own you. That gets you pandered to and used, but not helped- and you will neither recognize nor realize it.

Such a person has NO power over their own life. They won't have until they alter their fundamental grasp of responsibilities- but unfortunately, once those parameters have been programmed into your head incorrectly, they are extremely difficult to change, and yet you are the only person who can do it. Until you do, you will not be able to understand the minds of people who think differently than you- and I don't mean the "What" they think, but the "How", or the process of thinking that controls the results, including what you can see as options, as reality, as right or wrong. Now I would wish for every man to have the capacity to think for himself in a constructive, realistic fashion- it is a wonderful asset in life, whereas the lack of it is a kind of curse. It comes down to understanding how to use your mind as the precision instrument it is, and that is a skill that is part the programming in your head, and part the capacity to do it well. Anyone can sit at a piano, pound keys and make noise. Many who do that mentally consider themselves piano players, and reject any view to the contrary. That is incompetence combined with unawareness. Inability to produce good music, inability to grasp that the problem lies with you rather than the piano. That's where we are. Note that a person can be very competent in one skill- and grossly incompetent in another. But when it comes to the capacity for critical thinking, the lack of skill precipitates a range of problem symptoms that appear in most aspects of life. It's a general dysfunction that hides itself from the person if affects. All people have some issues here; it is a matter of degree that determines if you control yourself and your destiny, or your sub-conscious mind controls you.

From the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology,
"What's curious is that, in many cases, incompetence of this nature does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge. A whole battery of studies … have confirmed that people who don't know much about a given set of cognitive, technical or social skills tend to grossly overestimate their prowess and performance, whether it's grammar, emotional intelligence, logical reasoning, debating or financial knowledge."

Mark Twain-
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

We see this going on every day in public debate.
When a rational explanation is stated they don't want to accept, they simply turn the rules upside down and reverse the logic to serve their purpose.
And I don't mean to imply stupidity here- I'm honestly addressing your question; stating that what Trump supporters see and what you think you see are substantially different- and that is because of the way in which you process what you see; how you assign weight and value, what you deny or accept.

If you actually want to understand why people support Trump you must be able to understand, above everything else- how personal responsibility is literally the first principal you must accept if you are ever to take control of that fine, precision instrument in your head. Doing so changes everything.

 

More whining.

White people are not left out. Minorities have been and still are. Programs like Affirmative Action were designed to try and kevel the playing field a little. Sadly, most of those programs don't help that much, because as I said earlier, we can legislate equal treatment but we can't legislate what people feel.

If we ever get to a point where it just doesn't matter, and you still feel overlooked, get back to me. Until then, your tolerance for a few inequities would be helpful.