Why doesn't the GOP support Trump?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    He obviously has the best chance to win the Presidency. Why aren't they behind him 100%? I don't get it.
     
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    Perhaps because of his repulsive personality.
     
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    They cannot control him like the other candidates. Even Carson would need their help if elected so they would control him. Not Trump.
     
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    Trump is where he is because he is running against the GOP establishment which has been blowing smoke up the asses of the voters for too long. It's not surprising that the GOP establishment doesn't support him because he's kicking the barrel over and all those rotten apples are going to fall out.
     
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    Maybe because he doesn't have the best chance to win?

    Right now Trump is averaging between 30-50 percent in most repub primaries. If it stays a three way race, he will probably win the nomination.

    But not too many Cruz or Rubio voters will be excited about voting for Trump, regardless of who he runs against. I don't think he has principles he believes in, but rather says what he believes will be best reflected in gaining support in the polls. What he believes today, he didn't believe yesterday, and might not believe in tomorrow.

    Most Bernie voters will seamlessly switch their alliance to Hillary. Rubio or Cruz voters, who would easily back the other if their favorite dropped out, want nothing to do with Trump. They certainly won't vote for Hillary, but they'll simply not vote for Trump either.

    Trump will earn between 40-45 percent during the general election, maybe, and will be beat by the pathetic Hillary Clinton. This is why the GOP isn't backing him...
     
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    What you say only makes sense if Trump were in last place. Who the hell do you think is putting him in first place? No one seriously believes that all the Cruz and Rubio voters are going to stay home on election day if Trump wins. And you don't know anything about human nature if you think all those Sanders voters are going to flock to Hillary. They will stay home or go to Trump.
     
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    I think many in the GOP feel that Hillary will be elected President if Trump becomes their Party's Nominee.
     
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    Why would someone who is backing a socialist support Trump? He's already been vilified by leftists and the leftist mainstream media. Why do you think this will change during the general election? If anything, the attacks on Trump will become even more rabid, and few from the left will support him.

    Trump has tapped into a little over a third of conservative voters, so he will continue to top out at between 35-45 percent in the primaries, winning them. The other 60 percent or so of conservatives have no interest in someone like Trump, if the polls can be believed. Which means he'll keep this support, with little other support coming from elsewhere, during the general election.

    Trump's support is similar to that which was shown to Ron Paul. He had a dedicated minority of voters who would follow him to the end of the earth. When he dropped out, they dropped out.

    But let me ask loyal Trump voters this: if he ends up losing to Cruz or Rubio in the primaries somehow, will you whole-heartedly transfer your support to one of them during the general election?
     
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    If it's Trump vs. Clinton, going into the voting booth this Nov. will be like walking into an open untreated sewer. Bring a barf-bag and wear a mask. They are mirror images of each other differed only by their gender.
     
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    Let me you ask this.

    Do you support health care for all in a single payer system?

    Trump does.
     
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    It's pretty simple.

    He's a lying demagogue who doesn't care that everyone can see behind the curtain...and that makes the whole party look bad.
     
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    o_O have you met any bernie supporters? hillary personifies what they despise.
     
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    nope. Im voting for sanders!
     
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    Trump has made plenty of enemies within the GOP ranks with his personal attacks on Bush, Cruz and a month or two ago on Carson. As for the best chance of winning the presidency, no he doesn't. Among Republicans Trump has a 34% unfavorable rating, among Independents a group of voters any Republican candidate has to win 54-55% of to over come the larger Democratic base vote, he stands at 59% unfavorables.

    Trump does worst among all the candidates when placed in a head to head matchup with Hillary Clinton. Mainly because independents give their nod to Clinton instead of Trump. Clinton against Cruz, Rubio or Kasich, independent gravitate toward them instead of Clinton.

    Looking at RCP averages, Clinton 45.3 Trump 42.5

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    Other candidates: Cruz 45.3 Clinton 44.5

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

    Rubio 47.5 Clinton 42.8

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html

    Kasich 47.7 Clinton 40.3

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep.../general_election_kasich_vs_clinton-5162.html


    Why, independents. I stated Trump had a 59% unfavorable rating among Independents, Cruz is at 44% unfavorable, Rubio 36%, Kasich at 18%. The bottom line if folks tend to not vote for someone they dislike. So in my opinion Trump has the worst chance of defeating Clinton due to how independents view him, not so good.
     
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    Hillary is essentially Obama's third term and America has had enough of Obama

    Obama Changes Law: Allows Immigrants with Blistering STDs and Leprosy into US

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    "The administration has decided to let immigrants with three sexually transmitted diseases known for causing sores or lesions on genitalia to enter the United States, an expansion of a previous decision to let in those with HIV."

    Not much said on why this benefits Americans.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hhs-immigrants-with-hiv-stds-welcome/article/2583913
     
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    if folks tend to not vote for someone they dislike then why is hillary beating sanders? Her unfavorables are worse right?

    Maybe people have other standards for voting?
     
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    Sure, each individual votes for what they think is important to them. Clinton is winning because of the black vote where she is viewed 90% favorable vs. 84% for Sanders. She is winning the black vote by a 70-25 margin. Sanders is pretty even with her with the white vote where sanders has a higher favorable rating. Although with just 2 caucuses and one primary in the books it is hard to rely on figures from just 3 states. Besides, party members are apt to look at all their candidates in a more favorable, less unfavorable than the electorate as a whole.
     
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    So as a Trump supporter you'll switch to Bernie if it's Cruz or Rubio? I think you might be more typical of a Trump supporter than most people realize.
     
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    then how come he is even when he is more favorable? If he is viewed a lot more favorable by whites shouldnt their voting reflect that?
     
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    Because he is not the 'right' kind of GOP, you know, the ones that can't win the presidency.
     
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    Bernie Sanders is not a democrat
     
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    Donald trump is not a republican and many of the things he stands for the republican establishment are against
     
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    And it does.
     
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    He doesn't have the best chance to win the presidency and Trump is sub 40% in the polls, which is to say that 60% of voters would prefer someone else.
     
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    Political Correctness Caused College Students To Cheer For Trump.

    “For these students, Trump is not the leader of a political movement, but rather, a countercultural icon. To chant his name is to strike a blow against the ruling class on campus—the czars of political correctness—who are every bit as imperious and loathsome to them as the D.C.-GOP establishment is to the working class folks who see Trump as their champion.”

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/23/how-political-correctness-caused-college
     

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