Why doesn't the GOP support Trump?

Jon Huntsman: I could get behind Donald Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/22/politics/jon-huntsman-donald-trump-david-axelrod/index.html

"I'd love to see someone stand up who's a total outsider and see if that can be done because I think it would actually be a pretty healthy thing,"

 

....and 80% would prefer someone other than Cruz or Rubio....so?

 

There are many dynamics in play for this election that are unusual. This is an antiestablishment election for both parties because the economy is flagging and leadership has been rudderless. Trump's success is a good example for the right but the real surprise is Sanders who doesn't even pretend to be centrist. Hillary has a real problem because she is tethered to the establishment and she is not seen as the future by the young. In fact she is regarded by the young as the source of the problem not the solution. Sanders is seen by the young as the solution.

The Republican establishment wanted Bush but it was blindsided by the antiestablishment sentiment that is driving this election cycle and it didn't see Trump's hostile takeover coming. Trump is so much of an outsider that Cruz and Rubio appear as establishment insiders which greatly impairs their chances. When Trump finishes them off the Republican establishment will have no choice but to back him because to go any other way will cause Trump to go independent. Trump has them by the balls.

Sanders supporters are strident and committed and they will not take kindly to Super delegates stealing the nomination. They are young and many are first time voters. Their reaction to this sate of affairs will be swift and sure. They will either stay home or they will switch parties and go with Trump as revenge for the theft of the nomination.

These dynamics don't even take into account Hillary's issues with the FBI which is likely to be far more serious than many realize. It is not out of the realm of possibilities to consider that Hillary may not even make it to the nomination process because she will be so damaged by her actions that the Democrats may find her unelectable.

In this case they will have to scramble to find a replacement candidate which will raise the specter of super delegates again to prevent Sanders from getting the nomination because he "is" unelectable.

Get used to "President Trump". See how that rolls off your tongue.

 

You are totally wrong about Cruz or Rubio voters going to the other. Cruz an anti-establishment candidate like Trump. Most his supporters would go to Trump. Rubio and Cruz are at war AND the establishment does NOT want Cruz even MORE than they don't want Trump - and Rubio would hope to be Trump's VP candidate, so most Rubio voters also would go to Trump.

IF Trump blitzes Super Tuesday the "establishment" will increasingly be hinting at a Trump-Rubio ticket. They want NOTHING to do with Cruz. Trump's point: No Republican in the US Senate endorse him because they ALL despise him - including because it is a liar who lies about them also to get in the spotlight.

If Trump swamps the other 2 on Super Tuesday there is virtually nothing to stop Trump left. If, somehow, Cruz loses his own state of Texas? Its over for Cruz.

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Perfect example. Polls show Kasich supporters would go to Trump too, though one might reason the opposite.

 

He won't be willing to follow the script . And the lobbyist cant buy him !

 

Maybe hey can do a new script. Just sayin.

 

Career politicians have ONE script !

 

For one he's NOT a Politician.But a Real Estate guy who developed a shady
reputation in the 90's.he is Not a Conservative by any stretch.Certainly not a
lifelong Republican.Openly bragged about all the diehard Liberals he's
contributed to over the years.He's all over the map on Issues as far as
Single payer and Abortion and Never mentions the Constitution,lest of which any
Founder.He's the perfect Ringer.And he knows it.All he had to do to get in the
Political door was use his name recognition and how he'll :
Make America Great again
He wants to close down Immigration and build a wall.
He also said he's gonna SUE Ted Cruz.What's stoppin' him.That's a piece of cake.
Any stumblebum can sue anyone at any time.Unless one has never seen any of
the myriad of Judge Shows on TV.
Trump has said for a few weeks how's gonna SUE Ted Cruz.
I think the guy is mostly mouth and bragging rights.I need to find out if he
even worked summers in the construction trade.Like Framing Houses or
learning how to lay bricks or put down a footer.Or is he entirely a paper
pusher and a Big Boss.Very few Great American men,were paper pushers.
From Henry Ford to Andrew Carnegie to Thomas Edison.
Lest of which men with unbridled ego's.

 

It's common knowledge that The Donald doesn't use a script.Everything is
off the cuff and ad lib.Whihc could mean he doesn't like doing Homework.
Someone like Ted Cruz needs to ask exactly where Donald finished up at
Wharton.Top of his class.The middle or maybe in the Country Club car.
Cruz graduated cum laude from Princeton and then on to Harvard law school
and graduating magna cum laude and represented Harvard Law at the 1995
World Debating Championships.
Now you know precisely why Trump and Rubio are calling Cruz out as a Liar.
A disgusting,worst ever Liar.Because there's No Way on Sam Hill that either
Rubio and Trump are any match in a debate with Cruz.
Personally I feel Trump is more like representing an 8th Grade debating match.
He talks and argues like a combination of some Mafia don and a guy who still
delievers milk off a Milk truck { a Milkman }.

 

Well guess what we are NOT looking for Harvard graduate or a lying , backstabbing career politician ! Why has even 1 Senator backed Cruz ? Why is it Cruz so hated by his peers ? What part of , WE DONT WANT ANYMORE CAREER POLITICIANS DIDNT YOU UNDERSTAND ?

 

And he doesn't have to return any favors for people who helped him become President.

 

I won't talk about the Dem or Rep candidates and who should or should not be the nominations. But, how can either 'political party' allow million$ to be spent, and thousands of hours of work, and months of time, to manage and complete the primaries only to in the end say 'we don't like who the PEOPLE chose so we're going to override you and put in our own candidate'???

If I was the People's choice in the primaries, and the political party took steps to deride me, I would take legal action against them for Billion$$$. I have little doubt that Trump will take this action and if so I would support him!

Politics regarding the two political parties is such BS...

 

He is a morally loathsome former Democrat and blowhard for one.

 

It is so interesting to me to see this type of diatribe when the one named Trump is leading and the one named Cruz is doing poorly. There are myriad reasons why Trump is leading and why Cruz is not but fact is most Republicans are currently backing the one named Trump which you believe is 8th grade-ish. In your eyes all of those backing Trump are idiots while those few backing 'your guy' are on point. You should still vote for your guy, even write in their name when you vote for president, but this doesn't make you remotely correct...

 

I didn't know they were required to return favors .

 

I think you are missing out on what a fascinating political entity Donald Trump has become. I was not going to vote in this election because I feel that ideologism in modern politics has ruined the political thought processes of the masses and has rendered the government incapable of flexibility or compromise, things I feel are necessary to streamline the economy and promote growth. Since each party would only nominate ideologues, there was no reason for me to participate, since nothing I believe would be represented on the ballot. Then here comes Trump. Not an ideologue, and to my joy, he is actually telling the politicians exactly what I have been wanting to tell them: that they are losers who couldn't hold a real job.

I want Trump to be President. Lots of people are successful, but fewer are hard workers who literally push themselves to be the best. I want to have someone like that as President. But even if Trump is not elected, he can still do a lot of good just by wrecking the parties throughout the campaign. And now that he has made it this far, even following defeat, he will emerge with far more political clout than any billionaire I can think of (publicly at least) and continue to be a voice against ideologism and the establishment that we will continue to witness execute America's descent into mediocrity.

I was never going to support the gop nominee. The only people I have ever voted to the Presidency are Kerry and Obama, so I doubt my unique perspective is relevant to the Trump movement as it stands now. But if Trump is not nominated and does not run third party, I will write him in and vote for him anyway. I will never vote for someone I know to be an ideologue or establishment shill ever again.

 

Because he doesn't have the hand of special interests up his ass.

The GOP establishment are globalists that don't care about the American people.

Trump's a populist, which means he's for the people.

And, this is why he's going to win over the Dem's globalist, Hillary Clinton.




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Trump is a Fascist and the Republican Party is conservative. Hillary shares more values with the GOP than Trump does.

 

Hmmmm. Very interesting.

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Does his presence really mean a shattering of the GOP? Is it that bad?

 

The GOP establishment is scared of its own shadow. Their primary mission is to stay in office and collect their royal salaries and pensions. They have been duping the electorate for decades now, suggesting that they offer the people a conservative solution, all the while too scared to implement one iota of it.

Someone like Trump comes along who actually threatens to accomplish something that might ruffle a few feathers, and the GOP establishment circles the wagon and does everything they can to keep it from happening. God forbid their royal seats of power and privilege should be threatened by someone like Trump. Why upset the applecart when Dems and Rinos alike have created such a fabulous lifestyle for themselves in Washington DC, at everyone else's expense.

 

yeah. he would have no support in washington.

 

lol, because this is utterly embarrassing for GOP establishment. Here you have a bunch of politicians getting owned by a billionaire reality TV show who spends his time making fun of opponent's large ears, sweating and lying... Here's a guy that goes to twitter to call women bimbos and acts like a clown...

He also is not beholden to anyone and answers to no-one. Another thing that scares conservatives is that Trump's views are impossible to decipher, he has held liberal views and supported democrats for a lot of his life and now claims to be a conservative. They probably view him as someone who will compromise with democrats, which kind of contradicts those who think he's extreme.

As a democrat, i'm less concerned about Donald Trump becoming president than someone like Cruz, Cruz is even more divisive than Obama so imagine... NOTHING WILL GET DONE.

Trump speaks his mind and can come across as crazy but this is a successful business man who can actually get along with people, believe it or not. I think it will also be refreshing to have a successful businessman as president so people view government differently, now they have one of the best of the private sector in the inside.

 

Because he is a pathological liar. How can anyone Right or Left be a good president with that sort of resume?

 

This is a very thoughtful and heartfelt response, thanks. And you bring up some very valid points. I guess my main concern is the U.S. has never really been a country that got behind personality cults such is common in some African and South American countries. I've always felt ideology, thus, IS important, as voters would usually have a pretty good idea of what the person (and party) stood for when they went to the polls.

Trump will be a crap shoot. He might support this, or that, or something else, we're really not sure at this point. And while I'm not aiming the following comment at you, plenty of Trump supporters are voting for the reality star who 'fires' people on a TV show. They've attributed personality traits to him such as strength and wisdom based on a character from a scripted reality show; this should be frightening.

This election, President Trump. The next elected, President Kanye West. After that, this guy:



President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

We seem, in many ways, to be headed in the direction where we'll be living the movie, "Idiocracy"...

 

It's a terrible catch 22 that Trump's outrageous persona is both worrisome to any honest observer and seemingly paramount to his political success against the political establishment, which I believe has proven itself far more outrageous than Donald Trump could be.

No one has ever been able to openly oppose them and Trump is finally doing it, using his television persona to play the politics game. But remember that television was a secondary career for Trump. What I really want him for is his business acumen, his ability to place talent around him to negotiate trade deals. The television persona could be effective without going as far over the line as Trump has, so he is not perfect. But he is the only person I have seen get away with crossing the two party establishment. So I am willing to put up with what have, in my opinion, been only political faux pas to this point that are mostly irrelevant to the job I want him to do as President.

I certainly hope that after tonight, Trump will begin distancing himself from the far right characterizations, which he has never deserved. The gop's criticism that he is a New York liberal seems closer to the truth.