Why George W. Bush Let a Soldier’s Mom Yell at Him

Oh, you mean the CiC who sent the Marines into Lebanon with an ill-defined mission?

You mean the CiC who invaded GRANADA, FFS?

You mean the CiC who sold arms to Iran in order to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua?

THAT CiC?

Reagan did fine on rebuilding the military and dealing with the Soviets. Heck, I even support(ed) the Star Wars initiative simply because I thought it would jump-start development in cool areas like lasers.

But he had more than his share of shortcomings as a CiC.

 

In all fairness, was this action by Bush unique to Bush?

I believe presidents have been visiting wounded soldiers since there were presidents and wounded soldiers.

While I don't think Bush is evil incarnate, I also don't think he was great because he participated in a photo op. The entire story seems rather typical of a president.

 

Grow up.

 

Nice comeback....your intelligence supersedes all of us.

 

Same here. W. was fairly moderate and had some good policies, especially social ones. I often found myself defending him. Unfortunately, his biggest failures were some of the worst in American history, and the effects will last generations.

 

Why would you use Reagan? The US wasn't involved in any major military conflicts under Reagan. How can you hold him up as the standard for Commander in Chief?

 

On 9-11-01 America's economy took a big kick in the balls. Many corporate headquarters were destroyed along with the people who worked in them on that morning. How many weeks were commercial and private aircraft grounded over the CONUS ? But the American economy made a complete recovery with in eight months.

Now the "Great Recession" ended in June or July of 2009. But no complete recovery of the economy yet under the Obama administration and it's been almost six years since the end of the so called "Great Recession."

What if Bush were have had two or four more years in office, do you think there would have been a complete recovery by 2010 ? How about if McCain were have been in the White House on 2009 ?

I guess we know why it's called the "Great Recession."

I've lived through ten recessions in my live time and this current recovery from the "Great Recession" is the slowest I've ever seen, moving at a snails pace. Probably because like what the other Presidents didn't do, Obama interfered with the recovery.

 

Why would "Sport Illustrated" use Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers ?

Everything has to be compared to something why not set the standers to be judged by at being higher than the average so one tries to achieve being better than average ?

 

It wasn't Reagan but me, some of my associates, the Coors family with the help from the Saud family and Israel who sold Iran Israeli obsolete weapons so we could take the profits and fight communist in Central America. Col. North was just our middle man, but it was his idea.

Pretty good scam wouldn't you say ?

If I were POTUS I would awarded Col. North the Navy Commendation Medal with a "V": and the Navy Achievement Medal.

 

Get back to me when you've gotten back in touch with reality.

All the conspiracy-theory crap aside, we sold them more than "obsolete Israeli weapons". We sold them TOW missiles, Hawk missiles, and spare parts for their F-14s.

 

"Most expensive war in history." Grow up and stop spreading liberal lies.

What was G.W.Bush suppose to do with the recession, declare martial law, cancel the 2008 Presidential elections and stay in office until the economy recovered in 18 months or two years ? No he followed the Constitution and allowed an incompetent President who followed in his footsteps who interfered with the economy with no full recovery after six years.

 

Get back to reality, the Carter administration sold F-14's to Iran.

The TOWS, and Hawk SAM's were all from the Israeli's IDF inventories and all were obsolete models no longer used by the U.S. military or IDF.

No tax payers money were used to purchase the weapons from Israel. That's where certain private U.S. citizens come into play.

 

The 2001 recession ended in 8 months, but the economy did not make a complete recovery in 8 months. In fact, the unemployment rate and GDP growth rate never got back to pre-recession levels.

 

Vince Lombardi coached the Packers during games and won. Reagan was not CIC during any major military conflicts. So why would you use him as the standard? You're not making any sense.

 

I bet Bush does have a good bedside manner.

That would have been a good job for him.

Not president of the United States.

 

No, it wasn't just a fraction of lives lost. More Iraqi's died because of the sanctions and no-fly zones than the entire Iraq War. But hey, keeping that up for 2,800 years is no big deal if your into genocide.

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html

The only reason Saddam was in a "box" and let the inspectors back was because we threatened to invade.

 

Ilooked it up, the Great Recession lasted 1 year and 6 months ending in June of 2009. That's when you start counting how long when total rcovery of the economy is achieved. Almost six years later stil no complete recovery of the economy.

If you look at the 12 past recessions since 1945, they lasted from 6 months to 18 months, the Great Recession being the longest lasting 18 months with the 1980 recession lasting 16 months. Remember that one ? Double digit inflation, interest rates and unemployment not to forget sitting in gas lines for hours. Except for the "Great Recession" there was a complete recovery of the economy after the end of each of recessions (11 out of 12 recessions) with in 6 months to 18 months. Except for the "great Recession." I wonder why ? I don't wonder why, I know why.

For the past 6 years and 4 months the Feds have been propping up Obama's economy by printing up trillions of dollars with nothing to back it up with. Where has most of that money went too ? Wall Street and the banks.

How much Obama money have you gotten in the past 6 years and 4 months ? You no how much I got ? Not one (*)(*)(*)(*)ing penny.

 

Military morale. Respect from those who serve under your command.

Over seeing that you have a strong military where no major power will not want to go to war and attack you.

Reagan became CnC when the military moral was at an all time low, when we had a hollow military force. He rebuilt the U.S. military that the "New Left" and Jimmy Carter almost destroyed.

Reagan also had the decent common courtesy to return the salute when those who served under his command saluted him.

BTW: That military that G.H. Bush went to war with during the first Gulf war (Desert Storm) was Reagan's military.

 

6 million have died in the Congo over the last 30 years or so.
The United States has by and large done nothing, about the same reaction as the genocide in Rwanda....basically do nothing.

A few hundred Kurds die, and of course, it's a rationale to invade a nation.

Makes perfect sense.

The fact remains after the initial defeat of Saddam's forces in 1991, leadership realized the inevitable consequence of deposing Saddam's Batthist regime would be civil war between Sunni and Shia leaving the region decidedly unbalanced in favor of Iran.

This is precisely what happened.

As I stated, the adminstration had no counter insurgency plan or strategy in place at the outset of the invasion in 2003. It took over 3 years before an actual plan of action was developed to deal with the civil war within Iraq, DIRECTLY created by invading and deposing Saddam's regime. In 1991, leadership had the foresight not to invade.

So you seem to think solving the problem of a few planes getting shot at was spending $1 Trillion dollars of taxpayer funds, the lives of 4,491 service members and untold consequences treating hundreds of thousands of returning wounded veterans including psychological ailments (PTSD.) The final tally will be approaching well over $1 Trillion dollars when it's all said and done in terms of the cost of invading in Iraq.

You seem to think the violation of a no-fly zone was worth that.

No WMDs were ever found, the war was based upon trumped up intelligence. We went to war primarily over the purported immediate threat posed by Saddam's WMDs, not the violation of the no-fly zone. He had none, in the final analysis. So the goalposts were moved constantly to rationalize the tragic error.

 

You just wonder who Obama would have blamed it on. Bo the dog maybe?

 

He was especially effective as CnC when he pulled the stunt landing on the aircraft carrier pounding his chest and declaring victory while his soldiers were still getting shot and blown up over in Iraq. Also his brash declaration, "bring 'em on" from the comfort of his living room was very bold. This guy was a disaster as commander in chief. He is a horses ass and is responsible for countless deaths and waste of our resources in the trillions. It will take decades to overcome the 8 year crap fest that he, Cheney and their war profiteering scum bag cronies presided over. Just because of some meaningless poll taken by god knows who rates him highly, it doesn't change the history or the facts of what he did to this country.

 

You got all the lib talking points down pat. Too bad he was working with the Clinton intel.

 

"We begin bombing in five minutes."

August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan

 

Yeah, that was back when we were allies with the Shah.

Reagan sold Iran TOWs, Hawks, Phoenixes, Sidewinders.
http://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/i-thebeginning.php
http://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/i-theexpansion.php

Reagan had agreed to work with Iran to sell it F-14 spare parts, but the whole scam was exposed before those deals were completed.
https://books.google.com/books?id=e...ontra f-14 spare&pg=PA256#v=onepage&q&f=false

We also provided them military intelligence on Iraq.
https://books.google.com/books?id=e... contra f-14 spare&pg=PA7#v=onepage&q&f=false

They were not obsolete to Iran. They were what the Iranian military used.

Actually, the vast majority of the money came from the arms sales themselves.
https://books.google.com/books?id=e...ontra f-14 spare&pg=PA336#v=onepage&q&f=false

But yes, there was some solicitation of third-party contributions to aid the Contras. One that went hilariously wrong involved the Sultan of Brunei.
https://books.google.com/books?id=e...ontra f-14 spare&pg=PA352#v=onepage&q&f=false

So let's see here. We still have Reagan:

1. Selling arms to an official enemy of the United States, and a designated sponsor of terrorism;
2. Using the profits to illegally support a covert war;
3. Getting rolled by the Iranians, in that after we sold them thousands of missiles to secure the release of three hostages, Hezbollah went out and kidnapped three new ones;
4. Going all Keystone Kops with the Sultan of Brunei, by giving Brunei the wrong Swiss bank account number for a $10 million transfer, with the result that a private Swiss businessman received a surprise $10 million intended for the contras.

Yep, definitely awesome CiC material there.

 

Clinton is old man GHW Bush's lackey. He's an ******** too. And what you call lib talking points are just the truth that GOP idiots don't want to face. Then Obama came in and stirred up hornets nests in Libya and Syria. The plan is to keep things stirred up over there and make bank on selling weapons and abusing our military assets for decades to come. All of these scumbags have done their part as far as that goes from 1990 on when Bush I duped Sadaam into going into Kuiwait. Now guess what we're going to get in 2016....Bush vs Clinton! Get a grip folks the GOP is just as scummy and corrupt as the Dems, maybe even a little more.