Lots of liberals publicly advocate for more restrictions on gun ownership and outright banning it. Also, how the (*)(*)(*)(*)k would you know if someone has tried to take my guns away or not? You're wrong. Read the study. Abortion poses a high risk of death than giving birth.
You don't KNOW if someone tried to take your guns away but insist they did ... Now, back to the topic......it does NOT matter whether abortion or child birth cause more harm or death (obviously no facts would sway you) It does NOT matter because it's STILL the woman's right to consent to either.
If it doesn't matter then why did you mention that pregnancy could cause death? You were the first person to mention it. I was merely pointing out the FACT that abortion is more likely to cause death than giving birth.
From one post : """The POINT is that women have the right to CONSENT to either give birth or have an abortion""" From another post ::......it does NOT matter whether abortion or child birth cause more harm or death (obviously no facts would sway you) It does NOT matter because it's STILL the woman's right to consent to either.""" Pregnancy CAN cause death...... women STILL have the right to consent to pregnancy ...or not.... Good GAWD try reading....
I was unaware that all liberals want to take everyone's guns away, though that is not relevant to the topic of abortion. This is a load of horse hockey. I agree.
My comment had nothing to do with the Gun debate although I agree in general with the general principle "do unto others as you would have them do to you " aka - the golden rule. The foundation of the ministry of Jesus that most Christians do not abide by. There is a difference however, between the abortion debate and the gun debate. The principles on which this nation was founded put individual rights and freedoms "above" the legitimate authority of the state. The Gov't is not supposed to be making any laws outside it's legitimate authority and especially not laws that mess with individual liberty. Question ?? So what is the legitimate authority of Gov't ? The power of Gov't (as per the social contract) was to be limited. Limited to what ?? - "only acts injurious to others" protection from harm - rape, murder, stealing and so on. None of this applied to people who did not have full citizenship - like slaves for example. These were non-people. Same with zygotes or fetuses. As such the legitimate authority of Gov't does not apply. When we talk guns things get a little grey. Protection from harm is a legitimate purview of govt and gun's represent a threat of harm. This does not mean that people should not be allowed to own guns. It does give some perspective though on whether or not people should be able to carry a gun into a school or bar.
That is the equivalent of saying, if you don't like the idea of me killing my neighbor because he gets on my nerves, then just don't kill yours and stay out of my business killing mine. - - - Updated - - - 150% irrelevant! Nobody is required to support a homicide victim just because they oppose the killing of that person.
Nobody is required to give birth because someone else thinks, erroneously, that abortion kills a person.
Thank you for your thoughts on this. What about those times when contraceptives fail? The fetus cannot "feel" anything until a certain level of development of the central nervous system occurs. That happens after the 20th week. Until then the killing of a fetus is not unlike the "killing" of the appendix.
100% relevant when you claim to care about these precious human beings. Rather than entering text on forums, you can actually prevent a tragic death by offering to take over the commitment. Instead, you expect others to take on the responsibility. That would be like me claiming to care about the homeless by insisting they move in with you.
