Why I Might Vote For Republicans And Trump After All.

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    That is an absolutely stupid lower than low comment and it is absolutely false at that.
     
  2. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    Is it?

    :lol:
     
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    Forget Trump, vote for America...vote rep.

    Just look at the dems despicable agenda...

    Continue to murder babies by the tens of millions
    Register illegal aliens to vote
    Make America one big sanctuary city
    Turn America into Mexico
    Lower the voting age to 16
    Abolish the Electoral College
    Tear down the borders
    Promote and normalize homosexuality
    Dope up America
    Confiscate all the guns
    Escalated war on whites
    Replace white politicians with 'anything other' than white.
    Replace male politicians with women
     
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    Considering America, and the West, has been increasingly democratic socialist, for 100 years and more, and free speech has survived, I will take my chances.
     
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    The change in name does not alleviate that national socialisim (or capitalism) will be no friend of free speech or press.
     
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    Sigh.
     
  7. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    No in does not but in terms of economics it would certainly balance the playing field.
     
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    So how is it we had free speech prior to net neutrality (2015)?
     
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    Is that pretending to be an intelligent question?
     
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    I am just trying to understand why you think neutrality facilitates free speech. Obviously the internet prior to 2015 was restrictive on free speech, I guess I just don't remember how bad things were.
     
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    Why do you think the internet prior to 2015 was restrictive of free speech?
     
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    I don't, I was being sarcastic.
     
  13. CourtJester

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    Maybe you should learn How to use sarcasm. Nothing I said implied or stated that the internet had effect on free speech prior to the Republicans actions on Net Neutrality.
     
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    Donald J. Trump has made tens of millions of unwitting globalists, who were just going along to get along, into nationalists. So he has conquered that national part of it quite handily.
     
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    Ok, I agree not neutrality has nothing to do with freedom of speech


     
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    That is obvious. It is a lack of net neutrality that has an impact on freedom of speech.
     
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    So you can't provide even a single source to support your allegations? :eek:
     
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    That all sounds good.

    I didn't say anything about impeachment, I just pointed out that you've no real idea what the situation will be for the 2020 election so it's far too early to be declaring who you'll probably vote for.

    You just keep spouting meaningless rhetoric on this but you've not referred to anything real in any way. This is exactly the kind of thing that is wrong with the party politics you claimed to object to so you've no excuse for engaging in it yourself.

    No. The USA will continue to change culturally and politically, just as it always has done and just like every other country in the world. I did assert that Mexico won't "absorb" the USA though. That was just political rhetoric rather than fact again. :cool:
     
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    Voting either Red or Blue will not change things. The Establishment does not want competition for its narrative and the Establishment is both Red and Blue.

    Further - it is Red that has been pushing for an end to net neutrality which removes a big safeguard to censorship.
     
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  20. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    I admit that such quite a perspective is most certainly a possibility as my views coincide with that also.

    More likely than not voting is a useless exercise in futility nonetheless at the slightest chance that there is some small miniscule way of trying to change some things no matter how small often enough irrelevant it appears to be I view it as not completely being a wasted effort.

    Just look at the overall societal disruption of the status quo in the last two years, all good things in my book.
     
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    I support the "anti Establishment" movement. The way to vote is then to figure out what the Establishment agenda is and vote for candidates that are against this agenda - not to vote for a candidate on the basis of whether or not they are Red or Blue.

    The problem is that the movement has not yet identified the establishment agenda very well so the movement as a whole is not shooting its arrows as straight as it could.

    That said - I do see an improvement in the movement's accuracy. Hopefully this will improve further with time.
     
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    Global socialist obviously don't like the competition for hate.
     
  23. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    Yes, such an anti establishment position needs to be more thorough in who or what they're fighting against.
     
  24. Carl Von Clausewitz

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    They don't like any kind of nationalists period, whether it be my ultra nationalism or the cosmopolitan civic nationalism of libertarians.
     
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    You should learn the meaning of the words you choose to use "Socialist"

    With respect to wealth redistribution - Red political elite are the biggest lovers of wealth redistribution - at least since (and including) Reagan - aka - Princess with a Credit Card.
     

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