Why is it so hard to start business in rural areas?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    i know that to be true but it's counter productive.
     
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    Piscivorous New Member

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    Car dealerships in rural areas can be quite profitable. Prices tend to be lower than in the cities. For a major purchase like vehicles, people will drive a few hundred miles to get a deal. My wife and I both bought our vehicles in Reno Nevada. Her Nissan Xterra cost $2200 less than locally and my truck was almost $4,000 less. For the cost of 3/4 of a tank of gas, it was a steal.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    Not really. There is a town like 30 minutes from where I live that's pretty rural and they are very picky about who comes in to open a business. For Christ sake they just recently opened a McDonald's there like 3 years ago lol. This town and county is very productive with what they have, they just don't want the riff raff coming and ruining everything. It's understandable.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee. I wonder why it's hard to start a small business in sparsely populated areas.
     
  5. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Now there is a chuckle. Here I am sitting at my computer at my rural business reading this stuff. I don't wear camo, I don't watch NASCAR, I don't love Jesus but I am a college degreed businessman with years of experience in senior management. I just like to live in the country where there is no inner city.
     
  6. Bondo

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    Ayuh,... It's Not, at all that hard,... So long as ya build a suitable business plan...

    I dare say, there are Way more Self-employed folks in rural areas, than in inner cities...

    While opening a Brooklyn Bodega will probably lead to business failure,...
    Sellin' excess firewood to yer neighbors can be profitable...
     
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    Take a look at Pooler, Ga.. outside Savannah.. Its a Boeing Company town now and growing.

    To grow a business you need market access and a labor pool.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Industry has to exist within a resonable distance from the populace.
    That is the history of the Industrial revolution.As a kid growing up in the
    Suburb,one of my buddies father was a blue collar worker.I think the Only
    blue-collar worker in our neighborhood.It was a white collar neighborhood.
    This blue collar father had to take 3 different trains { rapid transit then west side
    trains } to get to his place of work,which was all the way across town { big city }.
    Therefore Steel mills {foundries } need to be somewhere within the hub of a
    large city.Pittsburg,Cleveland,Buffalo to name but a few large city.
    It is not prudent to have an Industrial cented too far from the confines of a
    large city { metropolis }.Plus with existing and constunuous regulations governing
    smog and emmissions,it is now an almost impossibility to relocate a Steel mill
    towards the suburbs.Plus it takes too long to build a Steel Mill.Therefore the
    reason Steel Mills in this country could no longer compete with Japanese steel
    based on newer stell mills.Bethlehem Steel going bankrupt last decade.
    President Bush should have stepped in and saved like how GM was handled.
     
  9. Bondo

    Bondo Well-Known Member

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    Ayuh,.... To grow a business, ya need a market demand...

    Yer talkin' 'bout growin' a huge corporation, not a small business....

    Both are a Business, but night, 'n day different...
     
  10. Margot

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    Pooler also has IBM and new subdivisions.. and its attracting cafes, fast food, dry cleaners etc.
     
  11. Junkieturtle

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    Rural areas aren't as useless as you think. There's quite a bit of industry left there. Where I live, it's not at all uncommon to see tractor's riding up and down the road, right through the one-stoplight town that I live in. This coming Monday is the first day of buck(deer) season(I think, could be doe, I don't hunt), and it's basically a holiday here. No school at all, and a lot of non-service sector businesses give it as a holiday too. I know I have it off as a paid holiday. I'm rural, yet there's a major chemical plant down the road, and another one(same company) up the road about 10 minutes. There's a major dog food manufacturer here too.

    Prior to about the start of the 21st century, my area was one of the biggest tool & die areas in the country, and it's pretty rural. Businesses can get good tax deals by locating in off the beaten path areas, and it's nice here to boot.
     
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    Actually the gas/oil exploration business could and has started opening up in some rural areas.
    It's all based on whats underground and what the gov't will permit.
    The farming idea sounds OK but farming is hard work and not that profitable.

    City slickers would rather collect food stamps rather than moving out of town and growing food.
    Farming is not for everybody.


    Another problem is that the big cities in most states are draining up the majority of
    social spending like welfare and causing the tax rates to go up even in the rural areas.
    The people and businesses in the rural areas are taxed so heavily there is little incentive to start a business
    unless it's real profitable and they can export a product.

    The rural areas are penalized sadly
     
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    If you're talking about my concept of creating a million more farms, well...I know farming is not for everyone. But currently we have 23 million unemployed Americans and this number will grow as population increases...all of these people are a burden on society and government. Farming would only be an option for those who are up to the task...not for everyone.

    People need to open their minds! Pretend like you are observing from the International Space Station so you can clear your head of the minutiae and avoid self-serving thoughts. An observer will see 10% of the USA as high-density and 90% of the USA as low-density. High density areas come with tons of problems! Forcing 50% more people in the current high-density areas won't work. For example, we CANNOT make the current 10-lane freeways into 20-lane freeways...can't be done! Of course people and government will believe they can continue down this path but IMO it's doomed to failure. Therefore, in whatever ways make sense, the collective we MUST try to utilize the 90% areas. And if we utilize the 90%, this requires water and energy distribution and infrastructure...
     
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    Well yeah. LoL. Though I did hear that some weird dude has a pretty successful toy factory at the North Pole.
     
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    In Northern CA there used to be a thriving timber industry. Most of the small mountain towns centered around lumber mills. When the environmentalists decided that the spotted owl was 'endangered' they and the Sierra Club effectively killed-off many small rural communities. Now some 20+ years later the spotted-owl is still endangered but....not by man....by ANOTHER OWL the Barred Owl which is larger and has superior hunting skills.

    Now...One would THINK that environmentalists would let nature take its course....but NO....

    the Obama Administration announced a new plan that would allow government workers to shoot selected barred owls so that their spotted cousins might thrive.

    http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/ne...t-barred-owls-protect-endangered-spotted-owls

    In the meantime, the EPA and US Forest Service won't even let the forest be properly maintained with their 'let it burn' policy. I guess they couldn't stop rural businesses any other way so now they're just going to burn them out.
     
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    Transportation
    Trained work force
    Demand for product (despite what the rightwing morons say, demand is the ONLY reason to expand, not tax cuts)
     
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    Isn't that just brilliant. Sure, there must be demand, but there needs to be an economy where money is in the hands of those who would buy a good or service. Many businesses must close because what they used to sell now doesn't because people simply don't have the cash on hand to buy.
     
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    Thats called 'demand' einstein.
     
  19. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    exactly. which is why most people are broke. and need government help.
     
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    Lowden Clear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not as smart as Einstein, but thanks for the compliment. To make sure you understand, there are factors that effect demand. In your comment, "Demand for product (despite what the rightwing morons say, demand is the ONLY reason to expand, not tax cuts)" you suggest there are no factors that affect demand. Tax cuts do put more money in the hands of businesses owners and customers. That helps to fuel demand because things can actually be purchased with that money. I hope I haven't confused you.
     
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    The meth lab business is going well.
     
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    With population redistribution this can change. If we provided potable water and energy in more areas of the USA this will encourage development. As long as much of the rural areas remain without infrastructure, we will have the status quo of extreme high density population centers...
     
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    40 years of f*&%ing small businesses/mom and pops through government intervention, over regulation that makes small businesses incapable of competing before they even open their doors, preferential treatment towards monopolized industries, as well as the cronyism capitalism perpetrated by the best government corporate money can buy, and you honestly have to ask? You do realize what a plutocracy is, right?
     
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    Spot-on, FM. Sorry 'bout the stereotype...jes' reflecting on my own banjo pluckin' kin-folk. Lemme' buy you a virtual beer so I can apologize.

    Still-and-all, can we agree that an educated workforce is at least a little bit attractive to corporations...er' people? [I'll add that 'people' also like a reliable physical/virtual infrastructure.]
     
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    Farming IS an industry.
     

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