Why is there a debate over global warming?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I recall him and his fakery. Did you see the largest stadium on Earth? It is in North Korea and is a favorite spot for Kim to execute his Generals.

    It might slow these scientists down to be taken to that stadium for a treatment by Kim Jong Un.

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  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Notice how often your replies contain political smears? That tells a lot of us a lot.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Every institution that has relied peer reviewed published Fake Science studies has relied on Fake Science.

    "Now, a painstaking years long effort to reproduce 100 studies published in three leading psychology journals has found that more than half of the findings did not hold up when retested. The analysis was done by research psychologists, many of whom volunteered their time to double-check what they considered important work. Their conclusions, reported Thursday in the journal Science, have confirmed the worst fears of scientists who have long worried that the field needed a strong correction.

    The vetted studies were considered part of the core knowledge by which scientists understand the dynamics of personality, relationships, learning and memory. Therapists and educators rely on such findings to help guide decisions, and the fact that so many of the studies were called into question could sow doubt in the scientific underpinnings of their work."
    NEW YORK TIMES, Many Psychology Findings Not as Strong as Claimed, Study Says, By Benedict Carey, Aug. 27, 2015.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/28/...ings-not-as-strong-as-claimed-study-says.html
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    You think the NYT, Scientific American and The Scientist are FAUX tripe? Think again.

    I gave you the evidence that AAAS was is dirty. You seem to be in denial in denial.

    "Hauser is Harvard’s superstar primate psychologist—and, perhaps ironically, an expert on the evolution of morality—whom the university recently found guilty of eight counts of scientific misconduct. Harvard has kept mum about the details, but a former lab assistant alleged that when Hauser looked at videotapes of rhesus monkeys, in an experiment on their capacity to learn sound patterns, he noted behavior that other people in the lab couldn’t see, in a way that consistently favored his hypothesis. When confronted with these discrepancies, the assistant says, Hauser asserted imperiously that his interpretation was right and the others’ wrong."
    SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, Fudge Factor: A Look at a Harvard Science Fraud Case
    Did Marc Hauser know what he was doing?, By Scott O. Lilienfeld on November 1, 2010.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fudge-factor/
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    There is clearly a problem with climate science or Schneider would not have found himself in a "double ethical bind" - would he? ;-)
     
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    Not likely. :)
     
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    I doubt that it will come to that. Honest folk across the spectrum are onto Fake Science now - its damage can be mitigated.
    Every exposed science fraudster discourages future Fake Science.

    Macron's belly flop should be a lesson to the rest of the crooked pols around the world - Fake Science can get them into serious trouble.
     
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    I guess they never taught you to measure temperature, nothing about tree growth rings, huge indicators of co2, evolution and aprix temps each species survives well, entomology and where insects are commonly found and have migrated because of temperature change...Nothing about the weather ? Like I said, you must have been sleeping. All of science is about the environmental conditions.
    Flight training.....no but we did have to retrieve a few downed pilots during war time.

    Too bad you don’t remember.
     
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    Ii
     
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  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wore me out trying to be nice to you.

    Sorry but you do not sound a bit like my flight instructor nor any of my high school nor college teachers. You have a chip on your shoulder.
     
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    There is no problem. You’ve been duped into playing a game. For every individual you can come up with credentials from an institute , you can bet the institute itself supports AGW and is backed by the work of hundreds of sciebtists. So, do your little fakery and cut and paste tripe from Fauxvand where ever, but you guys are really silly when you claim
    The ENTIRE world of science is on the take.
    Seriously, what kind of a person really thinks they are smarter then the official positions of all the accredited colleges in the world.....seen anyone in the grassy knoll.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His surly attitude plumb tuckered me out. i am done with that one.
     
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    Nice ? Anyone who disses the hard working dedicated people that do research in any field for all of these institutions is really brung duped. Do yourself a favor, if you have a degree from a school, , why don’t you check their official positions on climate change. If they are all duped into supporting it, your degree must be fraudulent too. You can’t have it both ways.
     
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    You have dissed perhaps hundreds if not more scientists. No need for more of your surly lectures.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you recall, I offered him 4 practical scientific solutions and sought votes for the 4 issues.

    He gave none. If he voted in favor, let me see what post it is since i missed it.
     
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    It’s this comment that shows you know little about science. Scientific fact is NEVER derived from a few individuals. It’s authenticity is derived from the institutional concensus, not from a few individuals.


    Tell me, you think the military which backs AGW whose job it is to save lives in combat has been duped too. The military doesn’t have time for fakery...until they retire and work for Trump.
     
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    I hope so....it would make my day to reveal them as frauds.
    So, did you check the stance of the place you got your degree from ?
    Are they frauds too ?
     
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    Oh get real. You now have a solution and you’re listing it in this forum. Why aren’t you giving a dissertation at Johns Hopkins or MIT ? Too smart for them too cause they are taken. In.
     
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    You have a very bad attitude.
     
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    Ha ha...why, because I don’t roll over like all, the pet fish who believe lies perpetrated for years by the far right. You do know, republicans used to believe in man made climate change, or did Faux and Heritage conveniently remove that from the history books.
     
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    You do know that hundreds if not thousands of corporations and businesses depend upon the measurements, guidance and recommendations of NASA...now you’re dissing this and our military as being corrupt. You have the bad attitude. Shame on deniers.
     
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    And that is the money well I figured exists. I bet you collect a hefty income being a believer.
     
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    there's a strawman...deniers continually moving on from one talking point to next everytime one gets shot down they move on to the next, "it's the sun", "it's volcanoes", "it's cow farts" "it's cosmic rays", "it's sun spots" now it's "the climate changes" duh! as if you were the only ones that knew that....

    denier world may have only recently discovered the climate changes but you give yourself away when you and all deniers repeatedly fail to address the relevant all important question....what is causing THIS particular climate change event?...but you won't you'll dodge and weave and have no explanation other than the latest standard fallback position "the climate changes"
     
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    well that explains your denierism, crap education...I was taught about climate change in the 11th grade 1969-70
     
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    Why? That's simple. Because there are wealthy and powerful people who make their fortunes by way of polluting the atmosphere. They are environmental criminals but because of their wealth and power, they can bribe politicians (into allowing them to carry on) and con common citizens into believing global warming is a hoax. If not for them we would ALL be united in helping to save the planet.
     
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