Why isn't repbulican congress fixing immigration?

1. All your're doing is trying to gain some debate leverage by pretending that some GOP inaction (knowing a veto would be at the end of it) was invalid. You've LOST leverage (and credibility)

2. Religious nuts - those who pander to Muslim Brotherhood front groups (CAIR, NAIT, ISNA, MSA, MAS, etc)

3. Sexual deviants - those who back gay rights lunatics, and pretend that homosexuality is normal

4. Fantasy ? OK I've hear you say that. Now let's see upon what you base that. Got an answer ? Let's hear it.

 

HERE it is >>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

Yes they have >>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

 

Of course not. There's no avoiding it. Yeah, of course I agree. Mathematics and science are as inseperable as anything ever could be. Qualitative measures created by quantitative measures. Qualitative measures existing, in and of the quantitative measures they are composed of. Composition being the essence of quality, or definition of things.

 

And again, you're criticizing the GOP for trying to pass a bill they knew they couldn't, and criticizing the GOP for not passing a bill that they knew wouldn't. Nothing you've said has change that conundrum in your analysis.

 

Gerrymandering has given the GOP control of the Senate?

Are you sure?

 

The GOP Donor class and the Crony Capitalists are as complicit in the flood of cheap outside labor as the Democrats are.

 

With 3+ million illegals here, why wouldn't they?

 

Get real most of the upper echelon corporate money goes to the modern American corporate state out of whole cloth beginning with the Administration of FDR.And RINO's beginning have never done much more than (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the amount of money being dropped on future generations. Oh and the crony capitalists are the creatures of the Democratic party and the best known of them unsurprisingly are Buffet and Soros. It's almost funny watching hacks like Harry Reid (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the Koch Brothers who won't play the crony game the way the Democrats want it played, while he shakes down GM big labor and the Rest simultaneously.

 

So he gets an F from a conservative immigration think tank. Oh my. How terrible, how destructive, how absolutely predictable.

 

Wow.

Blaming illegal immigrants for low wages ignorantly specious.
Blaming illegal immigrants for not paying taxes is entirely inaccurate.
Blaming illegal immigrants for remittances as tho it is a financial loss is simple economic ignorance.
Blaming illegal immigrants for traffic congestion and pollution is ridiculous.
Blaming illegal immigrants for overcrowding in schools/etc, is funny. Apparently 3% of the total population creates these problems.
Blaming illegal immigrants for low pensions/payments to veterans and seniors is entirely stupid.
Blaming illegal immigrants for cultural erosion in America is paranoid.
Blaming illegal immigrants for overuse of scare resources is outrageously funny.
Blaming illegal immigrants for D68 enterovirus infections is stupid slander, since D68 is a common infection amongst millions of people every year.

The Iraq war was neither won, nor was Iraq stabilized. But don't let actual facts screw up a good partisan narrative.

Apparently you don't know squat about the deal. Obama didn't give Iran all these things, A group of the 7 most powerful polities on earth did. It was Iranian money to begin with. The agreement was about the denying capability and INTENT to build nuclear weapons. I might add that Iranian missiles can already reach china, and Russia, two signatories of the agreement. What do you know that they don't?

 

Amazing. Losers don't try when they think they can't win. Politicians don't do anything if they think they can gain more traction by blaming the other side for ALL the problems and manufacturing false narratives that their particular "partisan base" laps up with great eagerness.

BTW, losing leverage and credibility? Nothing like demonstrating a rather strange perspective on both.

 

the facts seem to contradict you and the Christian science monitor.

And as for pulling out an immigration operation called "wetback" from 1954 and claiming that to be the Republican immigration reform bill - you can't get much lamer than that.

 

Are you referring to things like "trickle down economics", which was a term used briefly in the 80s, and despite Democrats being in power for a great deal of time since then, they still throw it around as if it is the source of all current economic problems?

 

they deserve criticism for political pandering and wasting everyone's time with their 55 failed attempts. They appeared quite comfortable do that, despite the fact they knew it wasn't going anywhere.

they deserve criticism for political pandering and not having the courage of their convictions in bringing their own immigration reform legislation to the floor, especially since their calculus shows higher gains amongst their base by NOT putting forward their version of reform while excoriating the current administration

No conundrum as political expedience always trumps conviction and action.

 

What are you attempting to say?

 

Bad example but yes, both sides engage in tactics that time and experience have proven to be effective. And with the ground breaking work of Luntz, the gop got a head start on the new and improved tactics now being utilized by both.

 

Its not a bad example at all. In fact, "trickle down" is the quintessential example of "Politicians [not doing] anything if they think they can gain more traction by blaming the other side for ALL the problems and manufacturing false narratives that their particular "partisan base" laps up with great eagerness. "

 

Not necessarily, just because the cost of labor goes down, either because or wage cuts or increased productivity doesn't mean the price WILL be lower. The price may be maintained and profits increased.

I recall in the days of sales seminars I attended the the myth of the "let's cut our price and make it up in volume and we will maintain our profit" being routinely dismissed.

 

That is why I said "should" and not "will".

Simply "cutting prices" doesn't work (but if there is a cost savings elsewhere, i.e. labor, then it "should" lower the purchase price while maintaining the same profit) and is why it was being routinely dismissed.

 

I gave you something and you ignored it, what is your dog in this hunt that warrants any credibility to your complaints about it? Perhaps you should be concerned about the immigration problems in YOUR country and try to take action there rather than pretending to even have the basic knowledge about ours let alone the finesse involved.

Such as

Obama came into office with the recession 2/3's over and receding and it ended 5 months later before any actions such as the stimulus had any effect. So your statement is entirely fallacious.

The job loss rate bottomed out the month he took office and had GREATLY receded before his stimulus went into effect. Instead of the 8.5% top unemployment rate he stated his stimulus would limit it to it soared to 10% and it stayed over 9% for the next three years and is ONLY where it is now because of the historically low labor participation rate.

He did not reform the healthcare system, he screwed up the health insurance system.

The previous president ended the war, Obama screwed up the peace.

Congress imposed the sanctions that worked, Obama opposed them.

If I were you I would stop digging your hole and refrain from trying too tell my country what we should do and concentrate on your own where perhaps you have more knowledge of the issues.

My my once again showing your ignorance of US politics.

Yes we know.

Yes our knowledge of US political events sure trumps yours and your claims that such things exist.

 

And why I said not necessarily, cutting labor cost can be a direct action to improve profits and not with any price cutting in mind at all. Just noting it.

 

That the Iranians aren't referring to them as the Great Satan and haven't, to date, talked about destroying them. By the way China and Russia have been dealing them this crap right along. So yeah citing Russia and China also avowed enemies of the US both of whom are increasing militarily aggressive as a reason to like this treaty is incredibly, dangerously naive, if not down right stupid.

By the way seventeen percent of the population of this country is Latino. What percentage of that is illegal immigrants is anybody's guess but it is almost certainly more than 1/6. But then you don't live here so you get to believe whatever ridiculous fantasy you wish without having to pay any penalty for your duplicity, arrogance and ignorance. Further that guy on the hum-a-round is the wrong age and wrong color, as the primary people being harmed by wave upon wave of illegal immigration are young and black.

 

Finesse? seriously? you think you are dealing with finesse? And once again you insist that only americans are credible in commenting on American politics. Intransigent parochialism, not to mention hypocrisy.

Yes, small things like shedding 800 or 900K jobs a month was a sign that the recession was 2/3's over. The bailouts had NO effect whatsoever under Obama, but apparently did under Bush. Are you at all familiar with the role that consumer confidence has in the economy?

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

It wasn't greatly reduced. And yes, the stimulus took time since it wasn't the magic bullet it could have been. As for the LPR being the sole reason for unemployment now being at "normal" levels, you obviously ignore the facts hidden amongst any reasonable analysis and simply wave this number around as tho it substantiates your criticisms.
Fact is the LPR is preforming more or less as economists have been predicting. Might want to scratch a little deeper into the LPR and its contributing factors. I don't say that there is a statistically significant number that have given up on finding a job, but it is far far from the main reason the LPR has decreased.

Seems to be more or less achieving its principle goals. Big screw up.

No, he didn't end the war, since military occupation is an extension of warfare and the shooting and bombing NEVER stopped. And its not like the de-baathification program didn't completely screw up the entire country and massively contribute to the lack of security within the country and beyond. But don't let tiny insignificant screw ups like those the Bush/cheney neo-cons perpetrated on both the Iraqis and the American armed forces get in the way of your attempt to rewrite history.

No, American sanctions meant NOTHING to the Iranian economy. It was international sanctions that Obama negotiated that worked.

It seems I have more knowledge of some of the issues than you do. As for digging hole, considering you think that only Americans can comment on American politics and economics (things that effect the world as you are the sole superpower) if I stay at it for a few more years, I'll get down to your depth.

Oh? what other presidents in the mass media era were subjected to attacks on their eligibility to be president, where accused of being a traitor, were accused of being a Marxist, were accused of being muslim? who was photoshopped as a witch doctor in an obvious racial slur?

Can't think of any offhand but I'll be happy to be "enlightened"

Cute. But I am afraid citizenship does not bestow knowledge nor expertise, despite what you may believe. I am absolutely sure that you possess knowledge that I don't just as I am sure the corollary is true.

 

Trickle down was a label. the economic policy of Reagan didn't deliver. the idea that by giving the rich more, it would help the poor and middle class was fallacious as history has shown. Just like Bush's "reducing taxes increases tax revenue" meme.

Not that there aren't numerous examples on both sides of the fence.

 

I will not get into the laffer curve debate because that will sidetrack this thread. In regards to your assertion that "Politicians don't do anything if they think they can gain more traction by blaming the other side for ALL the problems and manufacturing false narratives that their particular "partisan base" laps up with great eagerness" ,trickle down is the quintessential example of such. You have lots of leftists on this board even today (35 yrs later) implying that trickle down has caused everything from the finanacial meltdown of 2008 all the way to outsourcing. In truth, "trickle down" is nothing more than a tax rate, and there has been more than ample opportunity for Democrats to change the tax rate if that is truly what they think is the root of all evil.