Why kill the innocent?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do indeed.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    See, here's a real shocker..not all women are exactly the same, they do not all have the same thoughts, life style, circumstances, etc.

    I know that's hard for righties to believe but it's true nevertheless..


    Your "argument" is that women are cattle and need to be controlled by you.

    "Trust YOU, you know best" ….How laughable !!!


    See, here's a real shocker..not all women are exactly the same, they do not all have the same thoughts, life style, circumstances, etc.

    I know that's hard for righties to believe but it's true nevertheless..
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    OH! Do you like the idea of having a choice that doesn't include suicide?

    It's nice to have the choice to gestate or not....everyone should have the freedom of choice...



    Well, as long as you want to tell others what they believe, how about I tell you , you believe women should commit suicide rather than have an abortion ???
     
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    GOODGAWD.....they have PROTECTIONS not rights....something you've been told a couple of hundred times ….and still obviously don't get it....JustOMG…


    Someday when you have a point or an argument, do let me know :)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    The Supreme Court did not manufacture the right to abortion. as you claim it did
    ..!
     
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    Of course I wouldn’t refer to the 2nd amendment as a women’s issue since it’s not just a women’s issue. It’s odd you’re even mentioning that.
    Abortion IS a women’s issue HENCE why I called it a women’s issue. See how that works???

    Right, but I did. I asked you for proof of someone saying a genetically born male can get pregnant. So far you’ve failed at providing such.
     
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    Let's hear it then.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not a person - and so the same moral rules do not apply - in all instances.
     
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    Why?
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    :) That's all you can think of to say?

    Haven't you learned yet why a fetus is not a person?


    :) IF it was a person then the woman would STILL have the right to kill it :) :) :) :)
     
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    no significant brain function prior to this period - no thoughts - no cognition - no ability to feel pain - no memories - no dreams ... the lights are off.

    It is not a set time - but it's around 20-24 weeks. Prior to the wiring of the brain being connected (and lots of technical stuff you can read on this) you don't measure much ... sure there is some background noise from the energy of the process ... cells have electrical activity - and conglomerations of cells more activity .. but the wiring is not complete ... and there is little measurable activity.

    Then .. not like a light switch .. but like a dimmer switch - but happening very rapidly .. from zero to hero at some point within that time frame.

    No person in my books until that point.
     
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    So comatose people can be killed?
     
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    Why do you endlessly repeat that question ?
     
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    Well for starters, it's a question that you are HOPELESSLY INCAPABLE of answering! :roflol:
     
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    Someone in a coma still has significant brain function - once this ceases - the plug is pulled - and the dirt nap begins.
     
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    I've answered it many times...the fact you don't seem to able to get it/understand it/comprehend it is on you, not me...



    :) Even IF it was a person then the woman would STILL have the right to kill it :) :) :) :)
     
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    So you agree that your argument is busted ?!
     
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    So brain dead people can be killed?
     
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    A brain dead person is already dead. They are being kept alive (on life support) with machines. Therefore, the comparison doesn't work.
     
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    Do I have the right to stab them while they're on the machines?
     
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    @Giftedone - you agree with THIS? WTF? I saw your 'like.'
     
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    You can do whatever you want to do. It's really just dependent on how much the privilege will cost you in the end.

    P.S. Do you just like being argumentative? It's your right, if you are. I'm just curious.
     
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    If you had confidence in your answer, you wouldn't be afraid repeating it! :roflol:

    And why is that? Can women kill any person they want?
     
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    What do you mean by "the privilege?"

    Are you asking me if I like making an argument? What a weird thing to ask on a forum! Are you NOT making arguments?
     
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    Free will is a privilege; is it not? You asked if you can stab a brain dead person. Yes, you can. You'll pay for it with the police and courts but you can certainly make that choice.

    Your response answers my question perfectly. Thanks.
     
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