Why rushing to fill RGB's SCOTUS seat may not be in Repubs best interest

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  1. LoneStarGal

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    Trump isn't an authoritarian. A lot of classic liberals are moving to the right against the insane authoritarian anti-capitalists who are invading the Democrat Party. The Democrats won't stand up to them. Someone has to.
     
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    :roflol:

    He just plays at being an authoritarian in REAL LIFE, right?

    EVERYTHING he says and does EXPOSES his odious authoritarian nature.

    DEMANDING that the SCrOTUS declare him the "winner" on the night of the election is 100% authoritarian.
     
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    He never claimed that....frankly...it's very authoritarian for people to make up things...it's called propaganda....and apparently it's been feed to you
     
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    That's completely untrue.
     
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    So you are calling your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief a LIAR now?

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...urt-system-declare-winner-election-night-many

     
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    Yup, Trump and the Republicans should pretend they do not control the presidency and the Senate. They should pretend elections don't matter, and concede to the crazy Democratic-socialists that the American people voted out of power.
     
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    The context of Trump's comments are in relation to his disapproval of states which are deciding that they will count ballots which arrive days or weeks after election day. He said nothing about the Supreme Court. Federal courts are suing states which are trying to extent voting deadlines.

    A couple of states will count ballots which are delivered as late as November 17th. In most states ballots have to arrive by election day, or there is only a one or two day window before the cut off.

    Trump didn't word the statement very well (no surprise), but he thinks mail-in ballots should be delivered by election day so that we aren't waiting weeks for the final results. That's all that is. Fake media commentators blew it up into something he didn't say.
     
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    So.... your theory here is essentially.... wall of undecipherable illogical gobbledygook, and butt hurt. Got it.
     
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    Ballots should arrive by election day, or toss them out. the voters are given a month to mail them out.

    It's like letting people vote in person three days after the election, because they only just left the house on Nov 3rd, and have to drive from CA to FL to vote.

    You know when to vote, so do it, or lose it.
     
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    I know, it's like Lucy criticizing Charlie Brown, because he doesn't believe her promise not to pull out the football at the last second, again.
     
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    Trump is announcing his pick on Saturday. Romney announced he's "on board" today as well. Not that he promised to vote "yes" on the confirmation.

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    Lindsey Graham says Republicans have the votes.

     
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    ~ Apparently Trump once said he was "saving Amy Barrett for Ginsberg's seat " when she retired. Now they just had a meeting at White House. Seems she is the pick .. .
     
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    LBJ said he could walk on water and the media would say he couldn't swim. Naught hath changed.
     
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    :truce:Mitt Romney wants to stay relevant ... ;)
     
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    These frantic missives have sent me cowering beneath my howitzer, waiting for Redd Foxx's "Big One." Oh lord our planet shall split asunder should America be KEPT GREAT AGAIN.

    Leftists never lie, they told me that as well. I am Midwestern. I believe every single syllable of what my betters on the coasts tell me about Trump --- don't you? 'Course ya do!!! Today's word is "sarcasm." Can you say, "sarcasm"? 'Course ya can. Leftists can't. That's why they're so much fun.

    Leftists never ever lie! Of course, each and every 6,000-word screed (complete with indexes, color coding and PowerPoint shows!) is CAREFULLY studied like Rosetta Stones to discern why we need to elect Kamalalala and her bozo Biden. By now Dems are hoping he doesn't drop dead the day before election and leave Trump doing Tiny Tims through political tulips all the way back to the golf cart.

    We learn from such fare. Got insomnia? That stuff would poleaxe a water buffalo.
     
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    Agreed. Any party must agree that USSC terms outlast a given president's.
     
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    " Ruth baby I'm coming to join you ..." :tombstone::flowerpot:
     
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    Your wannabe FASCIST-in-Chief is DELIBERATELY and NEFARIOUSLY delaying the arrival of ballots with his TRASHING of the USPS! That is CRIMINAL and VIOLATES the rights of INDIVIDUALS to have their votes COUNTED.

    Any ballot POSTMARKED BEFORE the election MUST be counted since it is NOT the fault of the VOTER that your scumsucking wannabe Fascist-in-Chief has OBSTRUCTED the DELIVERY of their ballots AFTER that have VOTED in GOOD TIME!

    So the Supreme Court is NOT part of the Federal Court System?

    Seriously?

    The LENGTHS you have to STRETCH to in order to defend the INDEFENSIBLE are ASTOUNDING.

    Federal courts do NOT sue anyone! :eek:

    Those lawsuits come from your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief's CAMPAIGN team.

    So what? As long as they are POSTMARKED on or before 11/3/2020 the VOTERS are NOT responsible for what your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief has done to DELAY their ballots.

    That was BEFORE your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief TRASHED the USPS so as to OBSTRUCT the timely DELIVERY of mailed in ballots.

    Then your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief should have INCREASED FUNDING for the USPS to ENSURE that all ballots are DELIVERED on time.

    In essence you are SUPPORTING the DISENFRANCHISEMENT of your fellow citizens for the PERSONAL partisan BENEFIT of your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief.

    That is voter SUPPRESSION and YOU are all Gung Ho to see it happen NATIONWIDE!

    UPHOLDING the USPS is part of the CONSTITUTION that your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief swore an OATH to defend.

    But here YOU are SUPPORTING him TRASHING that part of the Constitution AND the RIGHT to VOTE of your fellow citizens.

    That is the ANTITHESIS of what it actually MEANS to be an AMERICAN.
     
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    The seat will need to be filled for the up coming mail-in-ballot fraud cases sure to come.
     
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    I'm not opposed to the idea, but putting an appointee in before the election would be analogous to a checkmate in x moves.

    Democrats have ways out of the immediate check, but they're all extremely radical options that create problems down the track.

    If a nominee is confirmed prior to the election it doesn't matter all that much if the Democrats win, much of their platform becomes untenable.

    Still, I like the idea. I'm split.
     
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    Guess where any dispute over the election will end up? The Supreme Court hehe.

    Elections have consequences.
     
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    Trump didn't do anything to USPS. The post office sent notices to several states that the mail deadlines to receive ballots didn't work with the existing post office timelines. They recommended to states that they pay for first-class postage, which normally takes 1-3 days for delivery, with an outside time frame of 5 days. If states want to be cheapskates and pay for cheaper media mail, it can take 1-10 day, with an outside time frame of 14 days for delivery.

    So, if state sets a deadline of October 23rd to request a ballot and sends it out with media mail postage, the voter may not even get their ballot by election day.

    USPS has said they have no problem delivering every ballot within their framework of operations, but that some states rules are outside the systems' operating procedure.

    The problems are with the rules set by election offices more than with the post office, but that is beside the point of what is upsetting Trump.

    Ballots should be received by election day, not postmarked and the counted up to 14 days after the election, meaning that people should mail their ballot 2 weeks ahead of the election to be sure there is time to make it. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Election officials set the rules, not the president.
     
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    I think you're reading the incumbent Republicans wrong. Republicans, most Trump supporters expect the senate to fill Ginsberg seat. Now we know Democrats won't vote for incumbent Republican senators. So they'll need every GOP voters they can get, filling the seat is a good reason to get them out to vote. Now they could lose a few independent voters, but that may be closer to a wash one way or the other. But not filling the Ginsberg seat would definitely make Republican voters angry and then they may not vote for them. This may be a choice of losing a large chunk of Republican voters or losing a few independents. Democrats aren't going to vote Republican just because they passed on Ginsberg seat.

    Maine is a good example of this, prior to Collins stating that the selection and vote should take place after a new president is elected, she fell from 4 points behind to 9 points behind. Why? Republicans were deserting her. She's toast come November.
     
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    Murkowski is up for a vote before the election now.

    Collins is the only Republican hold out.
     

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