Why Should Men Have ANY Say In Abortion?

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    You want to read through some of the pro-life comments in this section .. they even think an incest pregnancy should not be aborted!!!
     
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    course we know what republicans think, a women has defenses built in again that
     
  3. Makedde

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    If the woman gets pregnant from rape, she must have enjoyed it because if she didn't, her body would have shut that whole thing down!
     
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    Why should women be the only ones with the say? It is after all the male partner's child too. And it does permanently affect another vulnerable human life...


    Well, there is some small ammount of truth to this...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ion--Is-woman-likely-conceive-enjoys-sex.html
    http://www.thefertilityadvocate.com/fertile-woman/sexual-pleasure-can-increase-conception/

    Of course, not saying that if a part of the women subconsciously enjoyed the rape she deserves it. Just because the woman was forced to experience pleasure during the abuse does not mean she chose to. The rapist is still 100% to blame.

    But the woman is, to some extent at least, less likely to become pregnant if she did not enjoy it. That is why rapists so often subconciously attempt to pleasure their victim, even while they are brutally abusing them. It's probably a dark evolutionary adaptation from the past.
     
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    "Brutally abused " by a slimeball WOMAN HATER and YOU want her to have it's baby.....sick...very very sick....
     
  6. Unifier

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    Said nobody ever.

    Cynical and malicious liberals deliberately twisted the official statement around to make it say something it did not actually say. In order to spread fear and paranoia and keep people reactively siding with abortion without even stopping to think about it. Which is not surprising since nine times out of ten, liberals prove themselves fundamentally unable to accurately represent an opposing viewpoint without resorting to a straw man.
     
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    Another one with a rich fantasy life.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ed in the head statement of the month.

    The intent of brutal abuse is BRUTAL ABUSE.

    The rapist's subconscious is the very thing that drives the rapist to rape. It is a subconscious that is misogynistic, aggressive and violent.

    Some of you with your rich fantasy lives should consider trying to live in 'reality' sometimes...
     
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    would you care to watch this and then withdraw your BS

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19324653
     
  9. WhatNow!?

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    Tod Akin said it when he was running for office....he stated that in the case of "legitimate" rape the woman's body shuts down.....implying that if a woman got pregnant as a result of rape that she was lying about it being rape.

    Mourdock said it was god's will.





    Too bad we have so many sources nowadays to document incredibly stupid comments by people like him so there really is no reason to deny he said that.....




    I wonder how either of these men would feel the same if it was their wife or daughter, or 12 year old grandaughter....I bet these sick woman haters would enjoy every minute.....
     
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    I usually come to these threads and read what you say because some makes sense some get me to think this one just makes me say "Wow..." o.0
     
  11. Fugazi

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    what surprises me is that pro-lifers expect people to believe other things they say when they come up with crap like this.
     
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    "Well, you know, uh, people always want to try and make that as one of those things.... well, how do you.... how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. It seems to me, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape...... uh, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. You know, I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and... and not attacking the child." - Todd Akin


    There's your transcript. Word for word. All the way down to the "uhs" and pauses. Go ahead and point out to me where he says....


     
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    Right here:


    """"If it's a legitimate rape...... uh, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.""""
     
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    As soon as he says "If it's a legitimate rape...... uh, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." .. tell me oh great one what is a legitimate rape .. one where hubby doesn't take no for an answer .. one where the woman is too drunk to make an informed decision, or is it where the woman ends up dead.
     
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    And fail to both of you. As predicted, your emotions are causing you to build straw men.

    First of all, the word you guys are conveniently overlooking is TRY. "The female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." Nowhere does he say that this is always successful or that if it doesn't succeed, she somehow "enjoyed it." That is you putting words he did not say into his mouth. He then even goes further to address what happens if things don't shut down, which both of you completely ignored.
     
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    You're a smart man so I'm not sure why you continue to defend Todd Aiken. You know as well as I do that what he said was disastrously stupid. If you can admit, as you did in another thread, that the birthers are nuts, why can't you admit that Todd Aiken is as well? His being a fruitcake in no way weakens the pro-life position, it just means this particular guy is a nincompoop.
     
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    "Try" ? That is in a sentence that is a lie....a woman's body doesn't "shut down", it doesn't have ways "try" to shut down.


    Using the phrase "legitimate rape" implies that if she didn't enjoy the rape she wouldn't get pregnant, which implies she shouldn't be allowed an abortion due to rape because she "obviously" enjoyed it.

    It is complicated but a clue for you would be how even Republicans ran away, dropped support, castigated, this imbecile.
     
  18. RightToLife

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    extreme stress, mal nutrition, and other factors can lead to miscarriages. youre saying if a woman was raped she wouldnt suffer these symptoms?
     
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    The morons are the ones who voted for our communist, Muslim president. They are the sickos. And no one will ever convince me that he is a citizen. He won't release education or medical records and it took him four years to cough up a bogus birth certificate we have today.

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    Your entire position is crap fugazi
     
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    obviously hes not a citizen.... and he formed his political beliefs from his muslim socialist father
     
  21. churchmouse

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    Pro-aborts say the father does not matter...he should have no say.

    So I guess that means...the male should not have an opinion or a say.

    All you men should leave this debate and should have no say on the matter.

    Right pro-aborts?
     
  22. RightToLife

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    no, only males that disagree. they elected a man into office
     
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    Oh yes...a president that is pro-infanticide.
     
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