Why there is no movie about concentration camps under FDR won Oscar?

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

 

Sarcasm again. From now on I will do this [sarcasm]....[/sarcasm] to keep it simple.

But those two questions about failure I would like to hear about. Did you know literacy in Afghanistan is on par with public school educated people in Detroit? I have a thread with links. What does that fact say about the school system there?

Dodge and dance for me!

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Yeah we heard that quote before. You can do that with any book. Got any arguments with the positions it holds? I am curious.

 

Well Eastwood has won Oscars for best film and best director twice

Gibson has also won a best picture and best director Oscar.

So clearly talent plays a much bigger part in winning an Oscar than political viewpoints

 

Les miserables won more then one. It has a Christian conservative message. (Christ saves, government is bad, straight love, marriage, succesful business man is a position of honor, etc..)

 

Excuses are cheap.

Can you spell irrelevant?

Find the nearest public library and check out a clue where they are free.

 

Wrong. I'd tell you to read the book, but you'd have to learn French and it's neither Christian or conservative, but it is French.

 

I am talking about the movie. They don't give out oscars for books. Wasnt it written by an English man? I though victor Hugo wrote it. May be wrong.

 

Atlas is a pathetic conservatives dream. All the corporations are good. The government is 100% bad and everything bad that happens is the governments fault. The characters give long winded multi page monologues about how great pure capitalism is, etc... Its a pipe dream that is so divorced from any reality that it amazes me so many conservatives wield it almost like a bible.

They forget pure capitalism has a nasty habit of devolving into pseudo feudalism.

 

He was definitely French

 

It was just about how lefties dodge facts which you tried to project on others. No matter how many times those points are out forward no left can address them. They always dodge and dance. It has gotten to the point that I post stuff like that just to get a kick of the dodging and dancing. It is fun stuff.

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My bad then, I thought he was English. The movie has Christian themes though. I have never read the book. Because the word "God" was in it it was likely banned at my school.

 

Feudalism? Like taking people's money by force? Your government takes more from the economy then the Lords ever did. As a %.

Of course the concepts are exaggerated it is fiction. Not all of the businesses are good though. Many of the worst people in the book are cronies. Only people who create things and sell useful goods are heroes.

 

I dont know, I have never read the book seen the play or the film. French revolutionary literature is really not my cup of tea

 

Feature films about the World War II internment of Japanese Americans include:

Come See the Paradise (1990)
Strawberry Fields (1997)
Snow Falling on Cedars (1999)
American Pastime (film) (2007)

Both Come See the Paradise and Snow Falling on Cedars include storylines about interracial romantic couples parted by the internment of Japanese Americans. American Pastime focuses on internees use of baseball as entertainment while living in the camps. All three movies portray tensions leading up to the internment, life in the camps, and the aftermath of internment.
See also

List of documentary films about the Japanese American internment

References

American Pastime http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825225/
Come See the Paradise http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099291/
Snow Falling on Cedars http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120834/

 

That is how I felt and then my wife made we watch the movie. Wow. Amazing that they could make a revolution and redemption story out of musical. It is brilliant writing, worth checking out. The Old Testament vs New Testament theme showdown between Javert and Valjean is classic stuff.

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Using the interracial marriage separation is a good idea. Adds drama. Otherwise it would be a boring story. Unless there were some escapes.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*) you know nothing about history.

Feudalism, like a powerful individual/group screwing over a weaker group for their own benefit.
If you were not one of the small population of tradesmen that made up the almost non existent middle class in feudal Europe, and you were not part of the nobility or clergy, you were a poor peasant. Likely a serf. You were a piece of property barely above a slave, and you worked as a share cropper who paid 10% of his earnings to the churches tithe, and in addition to that, sometimes over 25% too the local lord/knight who's manor you worked on. You were not allowed to leave. Your children were tied to the land as well, and the protection of the lord was never truly guaranteed during an attack.

Also...

Cronies.... Free market systems inevitably strip everything down to money. They lose all morality and residual spirituality (look at what Christmas has become for an example), and they corrupt or create corrupt authority to preserve the monopolies that form. There can be no "true" free market, because inevitably, monopolies would put authorities in place to preserve their interests.

 

25% is less then the 42% taken by government. I live in America and assume you do. What nation do you have from?

Tithe is voluntary.

Name one true monopoly that didnt get special government privilege.

Immorality will always be profitable, there are hookers and crack despite laws and socialist countries are not spared this.

 

1.) 25-35% is a lot more brutal than is in 42% in modern America when your living almost day to day and every winter is likely to take a kid or two.

2.) Tithe was not voluntary. The Church would send agents out to jack your (*)(*)(*)(*) if you were late with it. Or, they would lean on the lord, who would then send out agents to jack your (*)(*)(*)(*).

3.) ? They always end up buying the government to make themselves more powerful. The Railroads used to hand out coins to people at the poles if they voted for candidates that would giver them more subsidies.

How about Microsoft? They were stomping all over the tech world unimpeded and were unstoppable until the FCC started breathing down their neck and Bill Gates was basically forced to throw apple a 150,000,000 million dollar bone to help them out so there would still be at least some semblance of competition in the market.

4.) If there isn't government oversight, immortality is allowed to take over. I am sure all the women and children killed by the Coal boss mercenaries during the Ludlow massacre would agree.

 

Apple computer and open source are my answer Microsoft. That wasnt a pure monopoly and they shouldn't have lost because of that, just some unfair trade practices. Which came about from common law norms designed by merchants and traders to protect property.

Yeah cronies suck. We agree there I hope.

Brutality is what counts? The free market improved people's lives, slowing it down with taxes is brutal when we could continue improving people's lives.

I guess we have to look at what periods for tithe jacking but even so 35% is still less.

 

1.) Apple was is major decline. That is why MS threw them a massive bone. Steve Jobs said later on that Apple was just months from going bankrupt.

2.) Open source? LOL. Linux was not even a blip in the public eye back then, and it barely is now. Had Microsoft been allowed to keep on steamrolling the market, they would have buried any chance open source had at widespread popularity.

3.) The free market condones slavery, because that is what makes the most money, which is why after the Civil War in the "good ol days" corporations used to pay employees in script that was only redeemable at the overpriced company store, which they would then go into dept to, and then become bound too. AKA, a serf.

Think it wouldn't happen again? LOL, Walmart got caught doing it in Mexico in 2008. Luckily the Mexican Supreme Court told them to knock that (*)(*)(*)(*) off.

4.) Your falling for the flat tax fallacy. If you have someone who makes 10,000,000 dollars a year, and someone who makes 30,000 dollars a year, and you tax them both 20%, then the latter person will be far more impacted than the first.

 

What do you mean? Linux powers most websites. Even back then. Microsoft is the leader of one industry and sucks in many others. Besides no one is stopping you from creating a better mouse trap. It isn't a pure monopoly. Apple did fine when jobs was there and after he came back and it was because of equipment sales, not a better graphical interface.

There is nothing free market about slavery. If you aren't free to sell your services it isn't a free market. At all.

Serfs pay tribute to their government. Just like over taxed workers.

What did wal mart in Mexico do exactly? Citation please.

Flat tax fallacy? Is taxation about how much pain they can endure from the rulers on their backs before revolt?

 

1.) Are you forgetting that one of the classic monopoly moves is to stomp out new competition? Are you forgetting all those startups that did things better than the big M, but ended up getting bought out or crushed?

2.) The issue is a free market devolves into that. You have to have regulation to keep that from happening, because if you don't, sooner or later it will. Slavery is the time proven most profitable way to run a business, and there are plenty of businessmen who don't give a damn about morality and would be willing to send the public sector down that road if they were able too. Why do you think robots are becoming the preferred worker in manufacturing? Low costs, high efficiency. Electric slaves.

3.) http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2008/09/mexico-supreme-court-orders-wal-mart-to.php Walmart was caught trying to pay workers partially with vouchers only redeemable at Walmart. AKA, script.

4.) Taxation should be about providing the government with income. Higher taxes should be placed on those in higher income brackets, but not be gratuitous.

 

One of of Franklin Delano Rooooosevelt's "Internment" camps. Shades of North Korea if you ask me.

 

1) bought out voluntarily? Crushed? How so? Like how google was crushed by Microsoft? Android? Build a better mouse trap and win the publics money.

2] slavery requires regulation not capitalism. Regulations always hurt small businesses more then large. You can't keep slaves without a government willing to round people up for you and regulate those people. Slavery is not capitalism. Rolling back regulations will make no one a slave, in fact it will free people from government mandates.

3] that is fine if they agreed to it before hours are worked. If afterward they have a lawsuit based on contract law, a development of english traders that we inherited. Free market needs courts still, that is fine. The workers can quit if they want or take it. Maybe get a job at Target and put wal mart under.


4] why can't the government earn its own income? If it can't, why does it need 42% of the economy more then the lords take from their serfs? How is it any different? Are your congressman not millionaires? Do they not lavish their friends with cash and privilege?

They take at least 30% from every working man. Why not side with the workers giants their government overseers instead of playing for the rulers and celebrating their power and wealth?

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Kids in school need to learn of his tyranny. The court packing threats changed this country in a bad way. His gold theft was evil. Destroying crops when there was hunger was either evil or moronic, paying people to write stories about how great he was is creepy. The man sucked.

 

Well by you logic you should be mad as hell at republicans and Bush over gitmo{

 

The atrocities of concentration camps weren't discovered until after WWII -- after FDR's tenure.