Will you take the coronavirus vaccine?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Moriah, Apr 16, 2020.

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Will you take the coronavirus vaccine?

  1. Yes. I want to be protected from the coronavirus.

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  2. No. I'll take my chances.

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  3. I'm not sure yet.

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  1. rahl

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    has no relevance to anything being discussed.


    uh, no.
     
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    So go and have yourself inject with live COVID virus, or find someone who is infected and have them sneeze into your face and then you can rub it into your eyes and when it comes out I will have myself injected with the dead virus or parts thereof and we will both gain immunity that is if you are still alive.
     
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    You don't get to decide what is relevant and what is not.

    And risk is simply part of being alive.

    There is a national compensation program dedicated specifically to injuries and deaths caused by vaccinations.
     
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    of course I do



    you can not show a single injury or death caused by a vaccination. Other than having an allergic reaction.
     
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    Over 99% of people infected with COVID survive. And the survival rate for young, healthy people is virtually 100%. Getting vaccinated to protect myself against something that has virtually no chance of happening is just neurotic and stupid.
     
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    Nope.

    In other words, vaccinations have caused injuries and deaths, which you just attempted to deny.

    So that means you were wrong.
     
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    Well there's a HUGE gap between contracting and surviving. So go have the live virus injected or someone with it sneeze on your face and rub it into you eyes so you build your immunity and you don't walk around asymptomatic infecting others. I will get the vaccine when it arrives.
    Why won't you do that?
     
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    I already explained why I won't.

    Because naturally acquired immunity is effectively no different than artificially induced immunity.

    Because the chance of someone like me dying from COVID is basically zero.

    Because it is neurotic to worry about something over which I have little control.
     
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    yep


    No, you don't need to try and interpret what I said. My post was in crystal clear English. You can not demonstrate a single death or injury caused by a vaccine other than an allergic reaction.
    because you can't support the claim you made? lol
     
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    Nope.

    My claim was that vaccinations come with risks, including possible death. You attempted to deny that even though you are now admitting that vaccinations cause injuries and death due to allergic reactions.
     
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    nope, this is your claim...........................
    to which I pointed out you can not show a causation of injury or death due to a vaccine.
    I correctly pointed out you can not show a causal relationship for death or injuries and vaccinations. Allergies are not caused by a vaccine.
     
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    Nope.

    Except I can show it. Thousands of victims have been awarded damages based on injuries and deaths caused by vaccines.
     
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    no you can't show it. there is no medical or scientific proof showing a causal relationship to vaccinations. That is reality.
     
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    this is not proving a causal relationship to the vaccine. As I said, you have no medical or scientific evidence that you can present which shows this. Accusing me of lying is against the TOS. I suggest you retract that claim.
     
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    Nope.

    Why would I retract a truthful statement? If you want to run and cry to mommy, then be my guest.

    And the entire point of adjudicating the claims in a court of law is to establish a causal relationship between the injury and the vaccine.

    And thousands of claimants have sustained their cases.
     
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    because you can not demonstrate I intentionally posted a falsehood.
    It does not matter how many times you repeat this, you can not provide any medical or scientific evidence showing a causal relationship to a vaccine.
    irrelevant. You can not demonstrate with medical or scientific evidence, a causal relationship to a vaccine.
     
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    Nope.

    Everything comes with risks, including the decision to walk out your door.

    It's already been demonstrated thousands of times in a court of law.
     
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    no it hasn't. it's why you can't provide any medical or scientific evidence showing a causal relationship.
     
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    The risks associated with naturally acquired immunity are minute. I understand why you want to avoid that discussion.

    The medical and scientific evidence showing the causal relationship was provided to a court of law thousands of times.
     
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    no they aren't. directly addressing and refuting your nonsense isn't an avoidance, lol.



    no it wasn't, which is why you can't provide it.
     
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    Thought you might be interested-

    Approximately 30 percent of people with measles experience one or more complications. Measles can lead to life-threatening complications, such as pneumonia and inflammation of the brain (encephalitis).

    Other complications associated with measles may include:

    • ear infection
    • bronchitis
    • croup
    • severe diarrhea
    • blindness
    • pregnancy complications, such as miscarriage or preterm labor
    • subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), a rare degenerative condition of the nervous system that develops years after infection.
    • You can’t get measles more than once. After you’ve had the virus, you’re immune for life.

      However, measles and its potential complications are preventable through vaccination. Vaccination not only protects you and your family, but also prevents the measles virus from circulating in your community and affecting those who can’t be vaccinated.“

    • https://www.healthline.com/health/measles#prognosis
     
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    Over 99% of people infected with COVID survive. For younger people, the survival rate is even higher. The risks associated with naturally acquired immunity to COVID are basically nonexistent for the overwhelming majority of people.

    It was already provided, thousands of times, before a federal court designed specifically to adjudicate such claims.
     
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    For some people, it sometimes makes sense to get a vaccine. I've never argued otherwise. But vaccines are not a panacea. There are a multitude of other important variables to consider. Thinking that a vaccination will protect you, while ignoring everything else, only provides people with a false sense of security.
     
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    irrelevant
    demonstrably false. a healthy carrier can infect an unhealthy person which can cause death.


    [FQUOTE]It was already provided, thousands of times, before a federal court designed specifically to adjudicate such claims.[/QUOTE]
    it was not, it's why you can't show it.
     
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    Over 99% of people infected with COVID don't die. For the vast majority of the population, naturally acquired immunity presents virtually no risk at all.

    The chances of that happening are virtually zero. At-risk individuals should be far more worried that Democratic governors will kill them by sending COVID-infected patients into their nursing homes.

    I guess people will just have to decide what they find to be more persuasive: Your repeated, empty assertions or the thousands of cases heard before a federal court.
     

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