women racked with guilt over their abortions

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  1. WhatNow!?

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    Still quiet :) ....too bad they have no answer.....
     
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    I for one won't be holding my breath for one
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Once agian my heart goes out to those women that have an abortion and later regret it but we must also recognized that they are really a self-pitying group of very weak women. They made a decision and now they want to condemn others for their mistake. Why don't they simply face up to the fact that no one forced them to have an abortion and learn to live with their decisions, whether right or wrong, and not try to blame someone else for it? They need to take personal responsibility for their own lives but they don't. They want to blame someone else when no one else was responsible for their decision.
     
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    Lots of women are racked with guilt over how the children they gave birth to turned out.
     
  5. WhatNow!?

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    While I agree with your post let's try to be fair to those women who had abortions....they have had to hear the nasty, nasty, hate-filled blather from the Anti-Choicers telling them how EVIL they are, how they MURRRRRRdered children, that they're sluts who spread their legs for everyone....

    Healthy intelligent women ignore those slobbering fools but weaker women may let it get to them.... I don't know why the Anti-Choicers want to make life hell for anyone (I'm not a bullying coward so I can't understand THEM) but they do.....I guess it makes them feel better about their tiny meaningless lives...,
     
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    :) Good point! I wonder how much of this hate directed at women who had abortions is jealousy,

    ya know, "my life is hell with these kids and YOU got out of it!"
     
  7. WhatNow!?

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    I'm still waiting for answers....especially waiting for that "proof" that PP uses federal money for abortions....
     
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    I would have come here sooner with the factual proof of PP's use of federal dollars for abortions, but I was too busy debunking some of the other outrageous liberal talking points. So I'll leave you with this proof of how PP uses tax payers dollars to murder over 1 million of our children in the past 3 years alone. Relax, I won't be asking for an apology from you anytime soon, for I know I'll never get one anyway.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/01/09...-record-for-abortions-and-government-funding/
     
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    I would have come here sooner with the factual proof of PP's use of federal dollars for abortions, but I was too busy debunking some of the other outrageous liberal talking points. So I'll leave you with this proof of how PP uses tax payers dollars to murder over 1 million of our children in the past 3 years alone. Relax, I won't be asking for an apology from you anytime soon, for I know I'll never get one anyway.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/01/09...-record-for-abortions-and-government-funding/
     
  10. WhatNow!?

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    Is that the Heritage Foundation? LOL! Try again....they are so far right....
     
  11. Libhater

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    Didn't expect you to accept the facts as facts. Oh well, don't you have a PP meeting to attend where they'll be discussing how many tax payers dollars we can screw them out of to fund our murders?
     
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    Why do you find it so hard to believe?? Is it because your so rooted in your belief that anything to the contrary is unbelievable in your mind? Unless you can find a way to see into each woman's brain it's really impossible to know how ever woman really feels.
     
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    This is true and it's sad that some would lay "guilt trips" on these women. They are really being insensitive to the woman and we know that it causes extreme mental anxiety for some women. Nothing is worse than feeling guilty about something we've done that we really can do nothing about. We all make personal mistakes and we have to be able to put them into our past and move on with our lives.

    When I was young I was driving late on a very dark night through farmlands and a kid came from out of the dark and ran right in front of my car. There was absolutely nothing I could do to avoid hitting that young child and he died immediately. I feel for the loss of that life and for that young boys family but I have put it behind me. If I could change history I would but I've accept that I can't. Fortunatelly I've never had anyone constantly condemn me for that night and can't imagine how I would feel or how I would deal with it if that had happened.

    As noted Anti-abortionists are often uncaring about the woman that has had an abortion calling them murders for having the abortion and sluts for getting pregnant in the first place. The extemists even blame the woman if she's the victim of a rape demand that she carry that baby to term and that is beyond any belief. Think of the mental torture a raped woman would go through being pregnant from a rapist. It's virtually a criminal sentence being imposed on the woman as a victim of one of the worst possible crimes.
     
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    That is not what has ever been claimed. I would estimate that almost all women regret having had an abortion. They would have preferred to not be pregnant and they regret the fact that they did become pregnant and had to have an abortion. The statistic of 80% relates to women that have had an abortion and don't regret their decision to have the abortion at the time because they would do it again in the same situation. That doesn't imply that they have no regrets whatsoever. It just that they know they made the best decision they could make when no decision was perfect.
     
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    Lol and that is your proof ... sad, sad, sad. Not a single thing in that "blog" is based on anything other than the authors own opinion

    so to the question again, why have PP never been prosecuted for misappropriation of funds despite 107 attempts by various people, including ones put forward when Bush was President and the house was Republican controlled. In fact Bush ordered an in depth investigation of PP by his own appointed people and they found absolutely NOTHING!!
     
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    The disturbing truth is that PP doesn't even need to break any currently existing laws to commit shocking crimes against humanity. Not really too surprising when one considers the grisly nature of what an abortion actually is.

    In most cases, it's not actually the organization breaking the law, but individual abortion doctors, who operate with virtually no oversight whatsoever. Abortion is one is the least regulated industries in America. Once a depraved individual has been given a warrant to perform a homocidal medical procedure on a helpless immobilized human being, in complete privacy, it opens the door to all sorts of abuse.

    All sorts of unspeakable things happen behind the closed doors of an abortion clinic.
     
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    So you can't prove one accusation so you ignore it and start making up other stuff.....

    Now show proof of "shocking crime against humantiy"....That's a big accusation so I'm sure you can prove it.


    """doctors, who operate with virtually no oversight whatsoever""""


    Prove it....


    ""homocidal medical procedure""""....prove there was a homicide...

    See, you can't just wail and moan and spout off, you have to prove this stuff...
     
  18. Fugazi

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    and this has to do with the question how?
    If you are going to bring up those videos again then let me remind you that they have been shown to be very heavily edited, and even the full versions avaialble on the website don't actually show what so many people are shouting about.
    PP took action when they viewed the videos by sacking those who were guilty of gross misconduct and re-training the others.

    what a complete load of BS .. how about some evidence to go with your crap.
     
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    Get serious. You don't think that genocide of our future generations is a shocking crime against humanity? Where are you from....MARS?
     
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    There is no genocide except in your mind but thanks for admitting you have no proof of any of your bizarre allegations...
     
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    Really, I bet I could match you case for case on the number of really evil things the catholic church has done over the years when compared to the good it has done.

    and there are just as many women who have no regrets what-so-ever.
     
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    Do you know what a comparison is, or using other items as evidence to support a view .. guess not.

    what would be the point, you don't believe polls, you don't believe stats so no matter what I post here you will just become an ostrich and bury your head in the sand and deny what is in front of you.
    But just so you don't scream at me that I am "running" away, here they are again (for about the hundredth time)

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

    as you can see, but probably won't believe, the majority position is "legal only under certain circumstances", your stance of "illegal in all circumstances" has never polled more than 23% (May 7-10 2009) since 1975.

    or how about this one

    http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

    or this one by Republican pollster Bill McInturff

    http://americablog.com/2013/01/shocking-abortion-poll.html

    or how about this list of polls from Priest For Life website

    http://www.priestsforlife.org/statistics/polls.htm


    Just how many do you want that show the majority of Americans support abortion.
     
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    For SOME women it does, for many others it does not because they know they made the right choice.
     
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    Or they just to try to convince themselves that they made the right choice, because they can't bare to think of the other possibility. Many women carry the guilt deep down inside them. Sometimes it is decades later before they can actually recognize and admit that they made a terrible mistake.

    Might want to google "post abortion syndrome" and "abortion denial"...
     

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