Why are you telling me what another poster said??/?? Can't address the post of mine you quoted ? ''Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post And the right to get pregnant and the right to give birth and the right to have an abortion and the right to use birth control and the right not to use birth control and vote and drive a car and own property and inherit and get paid the same as anyone else....YUP! Women have rights I KNEW you never looked up the word choice...choice means more than one option and it isn't yours""" - - - Updated - - - Which you are for, taking away reproductive rights.....
So, the sole purpose you have such a radical and extremist stance and gigantic passion for aborrtion is no other reason than "People will be people"? That seems to be the one and only argument you have.
It is the truth. Rail against smokers and try to get them to stop if you like. Rail against people who over eat and are obese. I am sick of this responsibility argument. It applies nowhere else in healthcare
No, that is your interpretation of my stance....and as most of your comments about me, inaccurate. There is nothing radical about saying people will be people....don't you think people will act like people? For instance, preaching about abstinence has NEVER cut down on unwanted pregnancies.....people will be people...
"I feel your argument doesn't make sense!" This is not an actual argument in any sense of the word. Since you two apparently cannot have a normal debate without turning to insults,arrogant remarks and never present any counter-arguments, I'll leave you alone. You can scratch eachother's backs in peace. I am out. Ciao!
You mean like this doctor? woman fakes cancer to get a late-term abortion How about this one? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-plunged-sink-babys-arm-came-reveals-cop.html
I didn't insult you, "arrogant" is in the eye of the beholder(you have assumed a lot and reading in "arrogance" is just part of those errors), I presented counter arguments and facts... you just didn't like them..... Did you think a "normal debate" was everyone agreeing with you?
This places abortion on a higher plain than any other medical procedure which could be said to be self-inflicted, why would that be? It also assumes that people are being "irresponsible", where is your evidence to support that, and people pay all the time "for the causes of other's irresponsibilities" eg. smoking. - - - Updated - - - More bovine crap.
And If that is all there is - no brain no cognition - anencephalic Are you still going to deny an abortion?
So.............. if people are not being people then what are they being Elephants, Aliens from outer space?? Yes people will be people - fallible and flawed. But the number one reason for unwanted pregnancies is - ignorance And I am betting you are one of the "Unwanted pregnancies can be avoided by using condoms" group yes?? Please say yes because then I can show you all the statistics that show a large number of women seeking abortion were using some form of contraceptive I can show you the failure rates of contraceptives and mostly I can show that if you prevent unwanted pregnancy you also prevent abortion
Why the heck do you keep up bringing up smokers all the time? I already told you I am against alll forms of subsidation. I never said people are not people, funny guy. The fail ratio of condoms is very, very, very low and I would say "abortion due to broken condom" make up very few of total no. of committed abortions. I don't see what is so monsterous about asking people to take responsibility. Isn't this what at all parents tell their kids? Use a condom and a morning after pill, and BAM. Safe as as can be. Totally irrelevant. This is a discussion about abortion, not birth control. You can discuss the fail ratio of contraceptives in the medicine section.
Then why do you keep bringing up birth control? Don't want to talk about it ? Don't. But abortion and birth control are tied together for obvious reasons. You: ""I don't see what is so monsterous about asking people to take responsibility. Isn't this what at all parents tell their kids? "" A parent can tell a kid he'll be a football hero but that won't make him one. You seem to be looking for a non-existent Utopia where everyone does exactly what you want and does it perfectly but that hasn't ever existed so there's a pretty good chance it won't. No, it isn't safe to use the morning after pill every time a woman has sex....most people have sex more than ""Once a year for Procreation". And women are under no obligation to use BC.
This post contains no argument. No, pumpkin. In my Utopia everyone is free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't violate the freedoms of others. Simple. Women are very much, just like men, under obligation to use birth control if they do not want kids. It's about being a decent being.
First time I have even mentioned smokers, so no idea where you get the idea I bring them up "all the time" So no schools, no roads, no military etc etc
