Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

So YOU say... and you are a member of a JAG staff...right?

I rather doubt it, or you wouldn't be making utterances like that in an open, public forum.

 

No...but I've served in the military. Check Article 32 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

 

Yeah, me too, ancient Vietnam Era vet -- although not as a JAG staff member.

Yes. Article 32 of the UCMJ describes various legal actions within the military, including "General Court Martial". This is what I predict Gen. Milley is bringing down upon himself!

You didn't provide a helpful link, so, I'll do it for you (since you brought it up, but many people today have no idea what any of this actually is....)

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_32_hearing

 

I think the first step is to determine the seriousness of the charge. If the charge is essentially a "misdemeanor," the "defendant" may accept non-judicial punishment via an Article 15. Since Milley is the senior military person, not sure who would be that person? Maybe the Secretary of Defense or the President? If the defendant turns down an Article 15, then the process proceeds to an Article 32 investigation followed by a Court Martial. Possible that an Article 15 applies only to the company level of command and that Milley would be ineligible for such? In that case, Milley would proceed to an Article 32 "probable cause" investigation, at the end of which the JAG would decide to proceed to a Court Martial or not. If so, Milley would plead either guilty or not guilty. Since Milley is the senior military officer, I would presume that only his boss could start the process...i.e. the President. Maybe the Secretary of Defense, but I doubt it.

 

I processed a lot of Article 15s but never heard of them being above company level.

They are non judicial so that keeps them lower in the chain of command.

 

Agree.

 

My mistake. Apparently, there is a Field Grade Article 15.

 

My post stands correct in fact all you did was hurl some names at it and those who support Biden. How weak.

 

I had to chuckle at the thought of a four-star General getting an Article 15. They could have him pulling KP and peeling potatoes for a month!

Gotta admit, that was pretty damn funny, and the Chinese would be howling with laughter, too. I'd pay money to watch a video clip of him working that peeler!

But, given the full horror of the allegations, I doubt that anybody on this side of the Pacific Ocean would be laughing for long....

 

How *undilusional is it for Biden and his hyped-up sycophant base
to not even bring up the 25th Amendment let alone Demand he
prove his mettle as Trump proved.By taking a Cognition test and
passing with flying colors.
You and your type are steppin' in it virtually every hour now.
The technique of Gaslighting in combination with Projection has
worn very thin.Trump may have had a big yapper.But he Loved this
Country and loved Americans { Of the Patriot mold }
We now have unmitigated examples where Biden Hates this
Country.It couldn't be any more in plain sight.
Trying to pass off Joe Biden's lack of Patrotism onto
Trump and his base is the Devils work.Where hearts are molded
into silly putty as if Childs play.It will pass.Humanity has a way of
calling these things out for what they are.No Matter a feeble,dishonest
Lying,Corrupt Mainstream Media.

* Mores akin to Nondelusional Body Dismorphic Disorder.
Not to be confused with the Three Stooges classic :
- Disorder in the Court -.[/QUOTE]
This is a nightmare of made up fecal matter and jibberish. We now have a F'd up expresident running around telling people he is actually the President. We don't need a sick F'd up president spilling out bile that attepts to errode the democratic process. I wish there was a way to shut down this lunitic.

 

And how exactly did it do so?

Formally, he does not need any approval or consent,

Even the defense secretary has no particular role other than offering advice if asked. Contrary to widespread belief, he does not confirm the order or otherwise bless it in any way.

 

He's got to go.

 

Yes but Trump still thinks he is President of the U.S a fact that is lost on you. How sad for you. Trump is a total and full blown psycho.

Same repeated question that I crushed on previous post.

Trump has been a psycho from the word go. He claims there were 3-5 million fraudulent ballots in the 2016 election without a shred of evidence. Then he dropped the whole thing. What a delusional paranoid Psycho.

I never said I cared about why you would be interested in what I think. I don't care now. You're writing a post to yourself which has nothing to do with me and your assesments are other worldly.

Lol who said anything about universities? Trump is an obvious psycho who has you baffled. Now this delusional psycho is running around the country telling those who care to listen that he is the elected president of the United States. The fact that this is lost on you once again proves that no professional opinion would change your mind as you share Trumps delusions.

 

MAY have overstepped his bounds, he TOTALLY DID. And we didn't have a sick carzy f'd up president there was NEVER a thought given to some nuclear launch that was all made up nonsense by a sick crazy F'd up MSM/Democrats/Lefist. If the Chinese had some worry that is where the worry came from THEY are responsible for it and if the CJCS got wind of something his FIRST call should have been the person he reports to and that is the President. If had claimed this unfounded worry about the CnC then he should have gone to the SecDef and SecState who he also advises. He never should have gone on his own and to date he has not denied the report statement to the Chinese general. The requires a courts martial. Remember we have civilian control of the military not military control of the civilians. And Milley violated the UCMJ injecting himself into the chain of command.

 

Thank you for posting this. In a way, and touching on all relevant issues, you truly do make my points more clearly than I ever could....

You are not one who can reasoned with at all. So, instead of beating a dead horse, I'll just hope you have a lovely weekend!

 

This is pure bitter and angry hard right wing speculation without evidence.

All I said is if our intelligence told Milley that China was concerned about crazy Trump creating an international crisis as a deflection to his losing the election it's believable. . You had a totally F'd up unstable administration so Milley probably over stepped his bounds. I've given you plenty of opportunities to comment on the fact that crazy deluded Trump is NOW CLAIMING HE IS THE LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT of the United States and you say nothing. You are in no position to evaluate this situation because you have no problems with Trumps sick F'd up psycho belief that he is the True President. You could care less that Trump's claim to the Presidency with the clout of an ex-president is disrupting democracy and fueling hatred.

Trump has been a psycho from the word go. He claims there were 3-5 million fraudulent ballots in the 2016 election without a shred of evidence. Then he dropped the whole thing. What a delusional paranoid Psycho.
Look F'd up Trump is running around the Country telling us he is the legitimately elected president of the U.S. and that is perfectly OK with you. . Your incredible hatred of Biden allows you to think it's perfectly OK for Trump to use his clout as an ex-president to SHRED DEMOCRACY. Letting Trump do this without complaint shows us you could care less about are democratic way of life.

 

Lol you post to yourself and ask yourself your own questions and then answer them.. These are questions no one cares about but you. Stop posting to only yourself. You make up your own criteria as to who is eligible to make evaluations and if they don't fit your own self-serving rules they are ineligible. Whacky posting.

So now you're free to believe as Trump does that he is the true president. That's all we need. More delusional thinking and hatred and disruption of democracy.

 

No It is The President who defends and protects the Constitution. Soldiers, they obey their CIC.

 

That's not necessary. All I need to do is demonstrate, well, not even demonstrate, merely point out the indisputable fact that if the allegations about what Milley are true, then he committed Treason. He bypassed the civilian leadership of the Military, declared he alone to be in charge (which was essentially a silent coup), provided aid and comfort to our enemies (by assuring them that no surprise attack was immanent, and promising to tell them if that changed), and potentially opened the USA up to a first strike, by not only rendering the President's football useless, but also telling the Chicoms about it.

Outside of Milley himself, and perhaps a couple of co-conspirators (if they exist), nobody yet knows the truth. I only hope that it comes out at some point, and the sooner that is, the better. I also hope the accusations are not true, but if they are, it's probably the most seriously f-ed up thing a 4-Star US Officer has done since Benedict Arnold. And it would be treason, regardless of your efforts to somehow justify it as a reasonable thing to do.

I'm not here to defend Trump. While I did (and do) think he was a much better choice than the ex-President's wife, if for no other reason than his SCOTUS selections, I also don't worship him and I have no issues calling him out if I think he did something boneheaded, like when he backed the gun-banners in their knee jerk reactions to the shooting in a S. Florida High School, and quite possibly what he set in motion in Afghanistan. Still, regardless of what he might have done there, it was Biden who issued the final surrender, and ordered our troops to cut and run from an unfinished war with results so easily predictable, Stevie Wonder could have seen them coming.

Not only is it not stupid, anyone who can't see that fact probably IS. You see, the fact that Trump made the action that Milley was so convinced he would that he literally committed Treason (allegedly) to prevent it, it also makes his own actions, and not Trumps, to be the ones rooted in insanity.

Nobody except Milley himself knows that. Yet. Hopefully there will be an investigation, but with people who think his allegedly treasonous acts are A-OK (just as you do) occupying the Oval Office and majorities of the House and Senate, I'm concerned we won't even get that. Because you and your ilk put party before the Country, and justify treason for bullshit reasons, just as you have and continue to do in this very thread.

That's his problem. And had he made any effort to make it ours, there would be no more chicoms today.

 

Clearly you have never served or taken the oath of office

 

Here is the oath:

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The according to part is not subjective.

 

But that is completely irrelevant! The Oath of Office they take says "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic", not "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, unless the POTUS done gone and lost his mind, in which case I can go around him and provide aid and comfort to our enemy just in case", it stops at the word "domestic".

There is no justification for Treason, and good intentions do not count.

I don't even understand where you guys are getting the idea that there is some exception to that Oath. There's not. If the President is that nuts, then it's the VP and Cabinet who are charged with dealing with it, not the CJCOS. And the fact that Trump made no effort to do what Milley (allegedly) feared, proves that Cheney's choice not to invoke the 25th Amendment was right and proper.

 

I admire people who have the truth.

Does God speak to you?

I'm going to try two predictions anyway:

1- Milley will never be arrested for anything.

2- You'll see another piece of evidence of a Deep State conspiracy.

A coup? Seriously?

Milley was okay with Trump overturning the election?

But no, please.

YOU have the truth.

Of course not.

If I were you, I wouldn't want that.

You don't want the top brass of the U.S. military to testify before the Senate about why they thought Trump lacked the mental capacity to lead and why they were terrified he would start WW3.

 

No it's fact, Milley acted in insubordination and against the UCMJ. If our intelligence was telling Milley anything they would have already told the President. Intelligence doesn't report to Milley, he has no authority over intelligence. If he heard it from someone else he had a duty to inform the Commander in Chief and take his orders from him.

You don't seem to understand who and what is the JCS and the CJCS.

 

Poor feller.