Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. stone6

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    I'm not defending Biden's actions. Other than moving the withdrawal date, from May 1st to September 11th and then back to August 31st, he basically followed the Trump-Taliban agreement.
     
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    You and other lefties on this board are literally talking about Trump more than Republicans. Your obsession is real my friend. This thread had nothing to do with Trump, literally nothing yet you've brought him up in almost everyone of your posts. It's like you guys have a pact every discussion thread about Biden's actions has to be taken down a Trump rabbit hole to insure the facts get stuck and hopefully ignored.
     
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    You as usual are ignoring Biden RENEGOTIATED THE TIMELINE with the Taliban. He could have changed anything he damn well wanted or he could have gotten out before the fighting season but renegotiated the timeline to the Taliban's fighting season. It was his deal and only 36% of Americans think he handled Afghanistan properly and 295 people have perished thanks to this f up.
     
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    Sorry you jumped to false conclusion. Part of the thread tittle is "Worried Trump could go Rogue” Trumps mental state has always been a part of this thread and was discussed in the beginning posts. Read the entire thread.
     
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    True and I have no more interested in your specious rants which are mere copy and paste exercises and false statements about my positions even though you have been told otherwise.
     
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    What I've never understood about the Taliban and us is why they weren't all hunted down and killed twenty years ago. In 2001 we had every right and the world behind us. You're going to say we couldn't have "de-nazified" them like we did with Iraq?
     
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    We've lost over 6000 American soldiers in this conflict and billions of dollars. I have no clue what your point could possibly be other than to lengthen are stay in a no win situation. Doesn't sound very bright to me.
     
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    But intelligent enough not to say "FALSE" on a documented fact as my chart from the Fed, that biden runs, shows. I will give you credit, first post I've seen where you didn't bring up Trump. Congrats on the improvement.
     
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    This is purely a dodge. My cogent statements are not rants you just don't have what it takes to respond with maturity and honesty.
    But once again here you are throwing full support at an ex-president who is destroying democracy by running around the country claiming to be the legitimate president. You could care less that Trump is undermining the country's democracy by claiming he is the true President. I can only guess that you are all for him doing this because you are bitter that someone you supported failed so miserably. Not once have you called Biden legitimate and not once have you called the election legitimate. My guess is you believe neither are legitimate since you have fought so hard not to tell us Where is the mature courage and honesty.
     
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    Biden is at least as legitimate a President at Trump was.
     
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    This is just meaningless B.S.
    You failed to respond to my post I'll let you have another crack at it: We've lost over 6000 American soldiers in this conflict and billions of dollars. I have no clue what your point could possibly be other than to lengthen are stay in a no win situation. Doesn't sound very bright to me.
     
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    Oh mine is real simple, in fact so basic that it's drilled into every 18 year olds head when they join the military. If you want out, great, get your American citizens that want out first, then make sure the allies get there's out, then leave. Not leave, panic, come back and get embassy staff, leave, then panic come back and start an absolute debacle to the point your enemy is providing security. Biden had 8 months to get this right and he literally chose the absolute worst possible outcome.
     
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    Trouble reading? I said, I am NOT defending Biden. However, The Trump withdrawal date was virtually the beginning of the fighting season...May 1st. Biden moved it to September 11th, which would be near the end of the fighting season.
     
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    Uhh if your out by May 1st your out at the beginning of fighting season. I guess I don't understand your point. My point is simple, Trump's agreement number 1 was set in stone and Biden didn't have to abide, same as the Paris agreement. Number 2 Biden renegotiated the agreement. Number 3 Biden ignored the fundamental agreement because the Taliban had started taking over cities by force which meant the agreement was no longer valid. Number 4 Biden's missteps have killed 290 plus and today we still have American's stranded today and now we find out we bombed an innocent Afghan family so those Americans are likely in SEVERE DANGER now.
     
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    This is pure after the fact B.S. You don't have a clue but you think you do.
     
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    Yet another brilliant response. I love when people say scream "FALSE" and "BS" because they have no answer for simple things like median income rose under trump, you "FALSE". "BS" you couldn't have gotten out of Afghanistan in a reasonable way, "You don't have a clue" lol. You're boring me now it's to easy
     
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    Once again you failed to realize that the thread includes:
    Worried Trump could go rogue” So discussion of Trumps mental state was a part of the thread and discussed especially in the beginning posts. Do you always make an azz of yourself trying to correct others when you lack knowledge and insight? You're out to lunch continually lol. Let me know when you touch down to earth. Your posts are good for laughs so lets have another.
     
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    Once again you failed to realize that the thread includes:
    Worried Trump could go rogue” So discussion of Trumps mental state was a part of the thread and discussed especially in the beginning posts. Do you always make an azz of yourself trying to correct others when you lack knowledge and insight? You're out to lunch continually lol. Let me know when you touch down to earth. Your posts are good for laughs so lets have another.

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    Over the past thirteen years I've been posting here, I've seen five or maybe six other posters of that one's sort, but few that are as full of uncritical, unreasoning venom and rage.

    This often reflects a dissonance spawned by desperate feelings of inferiority, and the lack of any way to improve it. So, probably best to sidestep that particular pile of crap... otherwise all you'll do is soil your shoes....
     
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    I havent seen that from Trump.
     
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    That is a perfect description of yourself. How can you improve if all you do is rant and rave and call people names then project that on other people.



    It's to late for you you soiled yourself long ago.
    Lol the hypocrisy is suffocating. You claim that I'm playing psychiatrist by analyzing sick f’d up Trump but at the same time you analyze me. How sad such low self-knowledge you don't appear to know what you’re doing or saying from one moment to the next. You are in no position to analyze anyone else especially with the usual common cliché' B.S. of "low inferiority." But it does describe you to a T[/QUOTE]
     
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    It would have been better for the U.S. withdrawal to have taken place at the end of the fighting season, not the beginning. In that way, the Afghan government forces would have had more time to adjust to fighting without U.S. forces to help. The DoD Inspector General's Office, which was monitoring Taliban compliance began reporting violations within weeks of the Trump-Taliban Agreement of February 2020. There was some response (primarily air support), but not much. The Congressional bi-partisan Afghan Study Group reported this year that the agreement should have been scrapped and replaced with a "condition-based timetable." The Trump administration continued to adhere to the original withdrawal timetable, regardless of Taliban violations. Of course, Biden extended the withdrawal date, but didn't renegotiate the agreement. Biden certainly shares the blame.
     
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    How sad for you that he's running around the country doing this and you don't know about it..
    US election: Trump falsely claims victory - 'The campaign, which I won, by the way' - BBC News
    US election: Trump falsely claims victory - 'The campaign, which I won, by the way'

    US election: Trump falsely claims victory - 'The campaign, which I won, by the way'

    President Donald Trump has falsely claimed that he won the US election, almost two weeks after victory was projected for Joe Biden.

    "Big pharma ran millions of dollars of negative advertisements during the campaign, which I won, by the way," he said in a press conference on drug prices.

    The state of Georgia's recount was confirmed on Thursday as a win for Mr Biden.
     
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    Yes Trump attacked them when they violated and they stopped and no Americans killed, his "condition-based timetable" was still in place and under a Trump administration that date would have come and gone because the Taliban was not in compliance. Biden ripped that plan up and put in his own, this is all Biden.
     

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