Would Turkey Be Justified in Drone-Killing the Turkish Cleric in Pennsylvania?

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  1. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go ahead. That would give us the go ahead for a declaration of war and I'm not a big fan of their fanatical leader.

    America may be able to do that (*)(*)(*)(*), but we're also a super power. Get over it.
     
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    Why shall they be justified for it?

    USA is using drones in anyone's Air Space and gives a crap about foreign territories with the Drone killings ... why shall the USA have any right to accuse an other one if doing the same in their Air Space?

    About the general question: Guelen has asylum in the USA and if they hand over him only by the word of a lying dictator ... well lets hand over all these Chinese and North Korean people having asylum in the USA to their motherlands too.
     
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    If such a thing should ever be attempted, the US will just shoot the drones down.
     
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    The US would never hand over Gulen ...he knows too much and would spill the beans. He might get in some kind of accident though. ..isn't that the way the CIA usually works? Now the MI6, they prefer poison and auto accidents.
     
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    What the USA does with drones is a war crime.
    The USA doesn't recognize the World Court.
    It violates countries' sovereignty with impunity..
    Does Turkey have drones positioned in Canada or Mexico?
    You can't launch a drone from Turkish soil...impossible range to overcome..
    Greenwald was just being sarcastic..
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    What the hell would "spill the beans" with?

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    The difference is that the US has the permission and works in coordination with the governments and militaries of those nations in order to perform those drone strikes. So your argument is in epic fail.
     
  7. Mandelus

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    And if countries start to do this with US drones?

    Aside this ... well ... will be interesting how the USA will do this with the full Air Space and to find such a drone. They were even not able to shot down drones of the Mexican Drug Cartels who use them to deliver drugs too.
     
  8. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    Interesting that you call it to have permission. Who gave the US permission to fly over Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya ...

    It is more the point the USA are able to do this, force others to accept and give a crap on others who are not their friends ... but start wining and being angry when they are shot down as in Iran so often.
     
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    Cuba did when their leaders threatened to nuke us, Iran did when they made their national motto death to America, Syria did when Assad gave asylum to AQI now ISIL, brokered their oil, and used WMD's against their own civilians, the Jordanian government allows the US use of their airspace, we aren't doing sorties over Lebanon, the UN established the no-fly over Iraq and Libya, and Pakistan did when they gave sanctuary to OBL for a decade. I personally hope Erdogan gets a made in the USA bullet right through his head, you don't it? Do something, we dare you!
     
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    Wow ... to be against America without declared status of war, the US get the permission automatically? Some sort of democratic rule of law made in the USA maybe! And then you wonder why so many are in anger about the USA as the evil of world when showing such a shameful behavior as you write and why the USA loose more and more control in the world if being so exemplary by holding laws and agreements ... :yawn:

    About the bullet for Erdogan I agree, but no matter from whom coming, important is only that it hits deadly!
     
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    UN Charter Article 51 right of self defense thanks for playing better luck next time we have some lovely parting gifts on your way out. Except for Lebanon and Jordan whose airspace we are not violating, every country you listed has either perpetrated an overt act of war against the US or aided those who did.
     
  12. Mandelus

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    Sure ... since the USA declared in 2013 to be exceptionally above the UN Charta, it is nice to see that you reason this all with an article of what is declared to be irrelevant by the USA. Nice job ... try better to justify this please!
     
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    What of it?
    Why do you think the US expects that no one will shoot its drones down, other than lack of capacity?
    Don't you think this lack of capacity is why we use the drones?
     
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    Of course expects military everywhere "losses" and so the US too. But I remember when the USAEUR become angry when Germany and other Western countries forbid to start drones from US bases in their country out of several reasons like high Air Traffic, but also damming the way how the USA is playing Prosecutor, judge and jury by killing anyone they want to kill by drones which has nothing to do with war actions ... if taking this silly BS phrase of "war against terror" into dump box.

    So USA needs allowance of these countries to use drones in their Air Space which are able to shot them down in masses or using Electronic Warfare against them. Will be interesting when for example Pakistan starts to forbid to use drones over Pakistan ... what is not unlikely.
     

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