Would you consider Sex Before Marriage is morally wrong?

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Is Sex Before Marriage morally wrong?

  1. Yes

    24 vote(s)
    17.0%
  2. No

    108 vote(s)
    76.6%
  3. I don't know. No comment.

    9 vote(s)
    6.4%
  1. Wingless

    Wingless New Member

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    Since morals are subjective, I went with no.
     
  2. Joe Six-pack

    Joe Six-pack Banned

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    The majority seems to agree with that 'no.'
     
  3. Sonofodin

    Sonofodin New Member

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    I think that it's kind of implied.. I think the poll means is it morally wrong by your own moral compass. :omg:
     
  4. The XL

    The XL Well-Known Member

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    No, I don't think so. But everybody is different, and you need to stay true to yourself.
     
  5. Subdermal

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    I say 'yes'.

    But I did it anyway.

    Lots.

    I believe that those with the disciplinary fibre to abstain from sex prior to marriage enjoy a stronger marriage, as sex heightens a bond and signifies commitment.

    Those who don't have more work to do, and more temptation to resist.

    I think those things which are morally wrong are illustrated by the dysfunctions they create when they're engaged in.
     
  6. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Not having sex before marriage would be like buying a car without test driving it or even worse like buying a car without even knowing how to drive. It is completely illogical.
     
  7. prospect

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    Yeah because when you love someone, it's the same kind of love you would have for a car. :roll:
     
  8. kilgram

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    Sex is something essential in a relation. And if sex fails obviously the relation can fail, and probably will.

    And obviously there is no wrong in having sex before marriage or don't marry at all.
     
  9. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I wouldn't argue with this. I've actually loved a car more than I loved my first wife. Of course love is NOT required for sex so it's pretty irrelevant to even bring it up.
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    You are basically correct. Violence and hypocrisy are much greater problems in this world than the marital status under which people participate in sexual activity.

    Many on the Right, focus upon "sex" for the same reasons which corporations do... IT SELLS, it is interesting and typically sensational to most people (at least a significant amount of the time).

    The hypocrites who spend so much time on spotlighting and focusing upon "sex" itself (with the exception of acts which create literal 'victims'), aren't helping a darned thing. They ought to be concerned about about the overall content of people's character period, not so much what they are doing sexually. Sex is NOT a bad thing (per se), but some affected by their religious closed-mindedness are unreasonable about this, due to the same.

    Want to focus upon something more critical to us all? Let's start with VIOLENCE and WAR... then move on to CORPORATE GREED. There are at least 3 things that deserve our MOST URGENT ATTENTION; sex ain't even near the top of the list.
     
  11. Kessy_Athena

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    Following a list of do's and don't's is not morality. I don't care how long or supposedly divine that list is, life is too complex to ever be lived purely by checklists. It is not enough to understand what is right and wrong, you need to understand why things are right and wrong in order to be a truly moral person.

    And if you're simply doing something because someone told you that it's right, aren't you just following orders? And I think we all know where just following orders can lead.

    Morality is about consequences. Not consequences imposed on you, but on consequences caused by you. What will the consequences of your actions be? How will they impact you, the people around you, society in general, the world? And you have to understand that indirect consequences matter just as much as direct consequences, and that there will always be unforeseen consequences. To be a moral person, you have to make a good faith effort to figure out the likely consequences of your choices, making allowances for the unforeseen, and make the best choice you can.

    So, premarital sex? Well, what are the consequences? It depends on the circumstances, right? So, for example, if you make someone think you're interested in a serious relationship just to get them into to bed, well that's clearly wrong. But that's about the lying and the manipulating, not about the sex. So it seems to me that the morality of sex usually has little to do with sex itself.
     
  12. prospect

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    "Can fail" shows that some have different capacities of Love,while others put more emphasis on sex.
     
  13. prospect

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    I don't relate to loving material objects, it just doesn't register to me.
     
  14. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Oh well, just because a person can't relate doesn't establish a valid argument. How could anyone not love a car like this?

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  15. charlieh

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    Who exactly made up this moral code? Are we referring to the christian religious moral code?
    It is always strange to me what people deem morally acceptable. We can kill people if our government decides it is okay. And if our government decides it is illegal then it is morally wrong.
    People have to decide for themselves what they believe in and have the intelligence and decency to decide what is "right" in their own mind.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    Morally wrong does not equal legally wrong. I think sex before marriage is morally wrong, that said, I don't think it should be illegal, and I don't care if you do it or not. It's not my business.
     
  17. kilgram

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    Yeah but failing in sex that is a component of the couple, is an enormous handicap and normally that brings to the breakout. If you can't satisfy sexually your partner, bad. Really bad.
     
  18. prospect

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    Easy. They just compare it to the love of a person they actually do love and see which one they would sacrifice for the other.

    A human life is priceless, the car isn't.
     
  19. Makedde

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    No sex before marriage would be fine, provided you actually got married.

    I'd feel sorry for those who never married, and for those who would deny them the right to a sexual relationship outside of marriag.
     
  20. prospect

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    ..and if your partner becomes Ill and can no longer do as well as another and you flee, bad, very bad.

    Again, some have different priorities and some don't have the capacity of love that others do.
     
  21. Daybreaker

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    Do they still have marriage? I thought they got rid of that.
     
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    Indeed they are.

    The impacts, of course, have nothing to do with sex. Sex is a sometimes pleasurable activity that relieves the tension of not having sex.

    The mistake most people make is to introduce marriage into what is the very simple equation of mutual pleasuring.

    Once marriage becomes connected with sex it causes all sorts of problems.

    • There is the angst of premarital sex. Should I/shouldn't I? Why/why not?
    • Then for some reason, gods get into the act. Will Jehovah, Zeus, Thor, Neptune, Isis approve? (choose one or, if you are promiscuous, more than one).
    • People make laws about marriage that are supposed to reflect the values carried by whichever god you happened to believe exists. These laws create notions like adultery, incest, and paedophilia. Further complicating matters - except for the Hapsburg dynasty, who nonetheless managed to run, very persuasively, the modern case for banning all three.
    • Then you get bored celebrity wives and equally bored celebrity husbands who feed the tedious aspirations of the bored masses via an equally boring media that needs to turn a dollar, pound or rouble.
    The list does not stop there. It goes excruciatingly on and on and on.

    It is an institution of the masses, by the masses, for the media.

    Think how much simpler it would be if everyone was allowed to screw anyone and get breakfast thrown in if they were good enough.
     
  23. Subdermal

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    Nonsense. The purpose of marriage isn't sex. That's just an enjoyable extracurricular.
     
  24. Subdermal

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    ^^this.

    And that is not saying that both cannot be incredible.
     
  25. BleedingHeadKen

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    If a partner becomes ill and can no longer have sex, or loses interest in sex, why is the other partner obligated to forgo sex? If it's not required for love, then it's just a function that can be fulfilled outside marriage, no?
     

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