Would you eat at a restaurant where the workers are armed?

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Would you eat at Shooters Grill?

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  2. No

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My daughter, now the Nurse, worked in restaurants. A person liked her service and gave her a $1,000 tip. She put it in the bank for her son to start a college fund. Those tips do a lot of good.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shooters Grill is the name of the restaurant located in Rifle Colorado.

    The girls allow the city to not have cops enter nearly so often. Tougher to fight an armed girl than one who is not armed and trained.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The exceptional shooter could kill a snake pretty fast.
    I tend to doubt most in those days were exceptional shots. Reason is based on my Army experience where we fired perhaps a thousand rounds of ammo. I did not count them up but we fired at various ranges for most of a good many days.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I definitely don't want to eat in Australian restaurants that look like that photo.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So long as the Waitresses have their guns, I do not need to go into a restaurant with my semi automatic pistol.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can only imagine that Custer wished the Sioux and Cheyenne did not have guns with them.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Any law ever made has that exception. The gunfight at the OK Corrall took place because the Earps and Holliday were trying to have the McLaury Gang surrender their arms as the law said they must, it was a gun control dispute
     
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    Deaths in the US caused by consumption of soft drinks dwarf the deaths by firearms by several orders of magnitude.
     
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    No sir. I can not go kill someone if I get permission from the local sheriff. I can not import opium if my local sheriff gives me written consent. You are grasping at straws. There was no prohibition of citizens going to a restaurant in Tombstone with a sidearm as you have been led to believe.

    The feud between the Earps and “cowboys” was essentially economic. Both wanted to control grey and black markets of the area. The OK coral incident was a result of this feud. The Earps used the gun policy as an excuse to confront, but the incident had nothing to do with gun control or policy. You watch too much TV.
     
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    You weren't allowed to openly walk about with sidearms in Tombstone or any other "Old West" town. It was low class and looked down upon. It was also dangerous and led to unnecessary deaths. People in those days had relatively much more common sense than we have now. In particular, they eschewed the silly viewing of gun handling as some sort of manhood/bravehood test that we have now. You watch too many movies.

    While Silver mining was a known industry in the area the Earps and McLaurys were essentially rival pimps providing prostitutes to service the several thousand soldiers who had been brought in to fight the Apaches. Refer to Vine Deloria's book "Custer Died For Your Sins" for further info
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As an aside, I once visited Wyatt Earp's grave south of San Francisco. He and his wife are there.[​IMG]
     
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    Hmm, guns are a "common tool" where you live? Maybe you don't get out much. And "the top 1% to 10% by net worth! LOL" use them the most? Interesting, but it doesn't sound like a fact.
    My comment was about actual use of the "common tool" and I bet there is a higher percentage packing in the hood than the suburbs or rural areas.

    "The 1881 shootout took place in a narrow alley, not at the corral. Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday weren’t seen as heroic until later; they were initially charged with murder.

    And one fact is usually ignored: Back then, Tombstone had far stricter gun control than it does today. In fact, the American West’s most infamous gun battle erupted when the marshal tried to enforce a local ordinance that barred carrying firearms in public. A judge had fined one of the victims $25 earlier that day for packing a pistol."

    “You could wear your gun into town, but you had to check it at the sheriff’s office or the Grand Hotel, and you couldn’t pick it up again until you were leaving town,” said Bob Boze Bell, executive editor of True West Magazine, which celebrates the Old West. “It was an effort to control the violence.”

    And your comments about the Smithsonian and Fritz Haber are nonsense.
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/fritz-habers-experiments-in-life-and-death-114161301/
     
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    I think so far one poster said he has eaten at the famous restaurant in Rifle Colorado called Shooters Grill.
    The balance of the posts seem to be wandering all over the map. I even wandered off to Wyatt Earp. Colma, CA is a town of cemeteries.
     
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    Yes you were. Nothing you have posted is supported by any evidence. It’s all your opinion based on media and entertainment.

    Everything I have posted is based on evidence—the actual law itself.
    So you concur the feud was not over guns in town?
     
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    Cool. Love or hate him he was an interesting character who shaped perceptions and realities of the American West.
     
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    A Friend of mine that lives close to Houston wanted photos of his grave. So I went there to Earp's grave plus to the military grave to photo my uncles grave. He was a WW2 combat vet who died in South Korea shortly after that war started.
     
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    Almost all of whom do so illegally, I bet.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The main thugs you do not want to own guns live in the hood.
     
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    When there's trouble there, bullets might fly through the air.
    That's pretty unhealthy for bystanders. :D
     
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    The rates of gun crime in the cities bear this out.
     
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    I was surprised it was not a beer!
     
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    I’m not sure what getting out has to do with it but I drove over 3000 miles around the US in April of 2021. Yes, where I live most people in my line of work fit in this demographic.
    Most of us use a firearm quite often for practical purposes including but not limited to pest control and euthanasia. I suppose on average I have to shoot something once a week depending on the year and wildlife population swings and disease patterns that fluctuate annually. As bad as places like St. Louis, New Orleans, and Chicago are I don’t think you will find many folks there who use a firearm weekly as an essential tool.

    I’m open to statistics to support your opinion. But about everyone I know here has a firearm within reach much of the time, especially in the spring.
    Charged and cleared.
    My pull quote clearly stated you had to have permission to carry. But there was no ban or prohibition. It is easier to carry in Tombstone AZ today, yes. But the original claim I’m responding to was that nobody carried guns in the early American West. This simply isn’t true. Neither is it true carrying was banned in Tombstone. You can erroneously believe that all you want but it is not a fact.

    Furthermore, ordinances in a few large towns like Dodge City or Tombstone are not indicative of the rest of the west at that time. Nearly every settlement had some sort of eating establishment but very few had any law enforcement to enforce any such firearm ordinance even if an ordinance existed.
    Again, I’ve quoted one of the actual laws showing this is not accurate information.
    No, I never post nonsense. I leave that to ya’ll. Here’s one Smithsonian article that has a different take on the issue. Pull quotes with link to follow.

    For those unaware of what a Faustian bargain refers to:
    And this from the article.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/whats-eating-america-121229356/

    Now, I also claimed Smithsonian prints other misinformation. Here’s a sample from the above article.

    The Smithsonian claim.
    The truth:

    There are bivalve mollusks (shipworms) that fix nitrogen in their gut. Termites have the ability to fix nitrogen in the gut in nitrogen poor environments. There are non symbiotic (the nitrogen fixers associated with legumes are symbiotic) bacterial fixers, the most important of which is cyanobacteria (sometimes referred to as blue-green algae).

    I used to like Smithsonian magazine but no longer trust it. It’s too factually inaccurate and too stuck on the notion humans are not part of nature. It’s pop culture science which is no science at all.
     
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    I wouldn't seek out the restaurant over any other, but yes I would eat there especially if I liked it or was hungry and it was nearby. The reason why is I am human than I consume food.

    I don't care if people are armed if anything I'm glad people are taking up their second amendment rights. But it isn't a gimmick that would get me in the door.

    The one with the rude weight staff that dress like superheroes that would be entertaining.
     
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    Really? That's it?
     
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    No doubt of that since the Indians had better guns. They had Winchester repeaters and the 7th Cavalry had a single shot. It was an advanced single shot quick loader and very powerful but still not a repeater

    I bet old George had wished he had a Gatling gun too, but he didn't.

    I wonder what would have happened if a contingent of Sitting Bull's forces had taken a boxcar of Gatlings off of some train.
     

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