Would you support manditory minimums for police officers?

JakeStarkey said: ↑
Official oppression in the guise of law requires extra punishment.

No, btthegreat, your reasoning is flawed, and you are wrong, because the violation of societal morals requires the police to receive extra punishment for their crimes.

 

No JakeStarkey, your reasoning is flawed. Crimes are by definition a violation of societal morals. Some people think that crimes against women are most egregious or against children, others think that crimes committed by public officials or teachers or cops or judges. Others think what matters is the seriousness of actual impact. To steal a 100,ooo is worse than stealing some cigarettes from a store. Some think that stealing 200 dollars is worse if it comes from a homeless man desperate for a hotel on a subzero night. Some look and the breadth or scope of criminal conduct. Others the intent behind it. I am prepared to allow a judge sitting in a sentencing to hear that very argument you offer here, coming directly out of the mouth of the prosecutor as well as arguing past conduct and pattern, malicious intent, direct harm, indirect or societal harm and then to measure the rebuttal by the defense counsel including all arguments that you personally detest and loathe when a man in uniform sits in the box. All of these are potential aggravating or mitigating factors. Trust your argument to merit its due in a courtroom. It normally will.

 

Nope, btthegreat, your opinion is your opinion and nothing more.

Trust the leges to make the laws, not those who love the police unions.

 

Nope JakeStarkey, your opinion is your opinion and nothing more. Trust the judges to sentence the criminals they see in front of them during trial, not politicians who love to look tough on crime at election time.

 

Mandatory minimums are post-trial facts that would do absolutely nothing to prevent rogue police officers from violating the rights of others and the United States Constitution. Post-Trial is not the real problem. Pre-Trial facts are the major issue as rogue cops are rarely (if ever) even charged with wrongdoing. Those who are charged are padded with so much legal pre-trail advantages that the Defendant or the State initiate said trial at enormous disadvantage. Thus, the reason why we see so many rogue cops getting off while Defendants get no justice.

To solve this problem, you'd need a lot more than post-trial solution. You would need to rip out the entire Injustice System driven by Corporate greed, and replace it (wholly) with a Criminal Justice & Reform System that actually does what its name implies.

In this case, to get real reforms, both Baby and Bathwater need to go - posthaste. And, after you drain the bathwater, sterilize and sanitize the bathtub while you're at it, before filling it with fresh new bathwater. Get rid of the old rubber duck as well. Probably want to go ahead and do a full restoration by getting ride of the old rusty pipes as well. What the hell, just go ahead and do the job right by ripping out the entire Bathroom and installing a brand new one. That should take care of the Rogue Cop problem.

 

Your opinion, btthegreat, is merely your opinion and nothing more. The judges will decide iaw the parameters of the law passed by the lege, and your opinion means nothing.