Yes, Blame China for the Virus

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  1. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    When the dust settles the US needs to lead the charge to "cancel" China. Phase out all dependencies on their exports, limit their ability to invest and own in our financial markets, and create an automatic mechanism (as in one not explicitly require an Executive or Congressional action) that will instantly and completely suspend all travel from infected areas or whereby persons have visited such areas; because the next pandemic is just around the corner.

    We can and should re-enter an age of manufacturing to strengthen our economy and jobs market whilst securing against dependence on 3rd world hell holes.

     
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    Are you kidding, how on Earth are we going to be able to afford our Basketball shoes unless we have Chinese Children making them. Don't be silly, The KING needs his shoes
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    And Chinese Kids are gonna make um, even if it takes 20 hours a day
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  3. Robert E Allen

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    While i don't know about blaming China i would like to see American become more independent and Americans become more independent from Government.

    Grow gardens, raise chickens, and to the extent possible create their own energy. That is how we prepare for the next unforeseen event regardless what it is.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I expect the left to be here soon crying about racism and xenophobia.
     
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    The simple truth is that this is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Many if not most people go to the cheapest place they can find for products, be it Amazon, Home Depot or Wallmart, etc. Those products are made in China or other Third World countries due to cheap labor. American manufacturers close and people lose their jobs. The same people that run to Wallmart to get cheap stuff.
     
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    TheGreatSatan Well-Known Member

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    American Democrats will do everything they can to cover for the Chinese Democrats and blame America and trump for the virus.
     
  7. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    How about blaming the first person in the U.S. that was diagnosed with the disease. He was a 35 year old Washington resident who went to Wuhan to visit his family. China didn't bring it to us. We went there and brought it back.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the Wuhan Virus / COVID-19 was a crime, China would be Criminally Negligent. They lied to the WHO and said it was not human to human transmittable as late as January 9. Then the WHO reported that to the world. They didn't stop travel in any significant way, they just gave it lip service. They cost the United States and the world trillions of dollars. The world should be having their debts to China erased and look to pull their manufacturing base back away from those scumbags.
     
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    There were people traveling out of China that easily could have been infected, before that guy.
     
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    You're right. We'll never know.
     
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    The CCP must fall. China needs to become Hong Kong, not the other way around.
     
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    China is of course to blame for the China virus. (Chi-Vi)
     
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    Was he aware of the issue? China and the WHO said it was nothing we worry about
     
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    Raise chickens and grow bananas in NYC. Sounds like a plan.
     
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    100.000's of Americans should work in sweatshops earning 10 bucks a month to make shirts etc?
    That is "strengthen the economy"....

    Good lord. lol
     
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    Well. It emerged in China. And at first they didn't know that they had it, how it spread etc. It took time to find things out and how to deal with it. All in all,.. comparing it to the US who had months to prepare it, the US a powerful, rich and well organized nation..... with the best president it ever had.

    Death toll in the US, with a predicted 100.000 to 200.000 ... will do a humiliatingly bad job combating this disease.
    Might as well call it the amrus.
     
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    Lol...while the ‘you’re on your own’ crowd runs around blaming others and hoarding guns and ammo, the ‘we’re in it together’ crowd is busy helping each other and working together to find solutions.
     
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    Yes and no.

    I think it's a very leftist behavour to blame everything on other people and don't take the responsibility.

    Yes, the chinese government lied a lot. They share a responsibility by not telling the world the true danger of the virus. Despite chinese strange food habits, I doubt we could blame china if the virus appeared in their country, that's not something you can really controle.

    However, plenty of countries managed to deal with this virus in a much more effective way, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan are such examples, and none of these countries had to impose any lockdown.

    In my country France, the government knew that the coronavirus was extremly problematic, and they delayed, simply because they were too scary of hurting the economy, and furthermore, they didn't had any solid plan for any pandemic (which is one of the few basic function of a government). And today, because they didn't reacted quick enough, the damages are ten much more dreadfull.
    But it's not only in France, UK, Italy, Spain didn't took any serious actions also for the same reasons.

    Furthermore, it's not China which is responsible if the whole western world wanted to make them the world factory. The chinese managed to turn one of the poorest place of the world in the 70's into the second world power in only fifty years.
    Is China responsible for the deprativity of the western world which wanted only cheaper prices by sending factories in third world countries ? No.
    Is China responsible for the complete ineptitude of western government ? Partly, because they lied, but even if they lied, it didn't prevented S.Korea, Taiwan and Japan to take adequate measures. Why ? Simply because their authorities were more skilled than the western one. Many governments had enough informations after what happened in South Korea, Italy to react in an appropriate manner, they didn't, the reason ? China ? No. It's because they were morons.

    USA had enough informations with the situation in South Korea and Italy to react in an appropriate manner. I agree that chinese authorities acted in criminal way with their lies, but the under reaction of many other governments, included the american way are also criminal.
     
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    Carnivores are to blame for the virus.
     
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    Rather right wing to blame foreigners for your own troubles.

    I do think they did tell what was going on. The doctor who found this reported this on december 30th or something. Wuhan was locked down in 20 days. We heard about it. That should have been basically everything we needed to know it was going to be really really serious.

    I dunno what you think they should have done. Had this massive research done to tell you every little detail about how deadly it all could be, how it is transmitted, how to cure it? Why not toss in the medicine for free while we're at it. You know. I dunno why you think they had that information to share in januari or even sooner. I again point at that 1 doctor only reported this almost at the start of 2020.

    They just mirrored China. Total lockdown. And it solved a lot of things. Italy didn't really went into total lock down for weeks on end. They should have done so in 20 days.... or even less so. Do note, China scaled up sky high from 1st report to lock down in 20 days. What did the US do? Total joke to still have no lock down. But let's blame it on China, because "we still don't know". Right.
     
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    Sounds like a good way to get all the illegal immigrants that the Left wants to come over all the damn time to here earn their new citizenship. On the other hand that now may be a moot point as even many Dem Party voters can now see the STUPIDITY inherent in keeping an open borders policy in place.
     
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    Psssst . . . leftist Italians went ballistic over the notion of locking down travel from China and even insisted on a national Hug a Chinese day to prove that they were acceptably Politically Correct.
     
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    There is almost any certainty, they lied on the number of victims. However, there were clearly enough informations to take action. In any case, if the CIA wasn't able to get any viable information on the crisis, they weren't doing their job right. I'm quite curious to know what the CIA knew and what theu soad.

    Neither S.Korea, Taiwan or Japan had to perform any lockdown, simply because they took actions before. S.Korea tested its population massively, hundred of thousand of tests if I remember well. If you heard of any lockdown in those countries, I would be curious to see any newspaper articles.
    Avoid a lockdown was possible, however, it required to take strict actions from the start, as did S.Korea.

    Lockdown could be avoided if there were enough masks, and enough tests, but it would have required to launch a massive procedure of testing hundred of thousand of people, if not millions.
    Taiwan, S.Korea and Japan have furthermore a more disciplined population, that wear masks in a more easy way, and they don't shake hands, a small detail, but that help. Mose households there have mask at homes.
     
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    What a silly notion. China allowed this to get out of hand. If China wasn't a socialist country people would not have to eat bats and snakes to survive.
     
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    The entire idea that anybody in the US, legal or illegal, is going to work for 10 bucks a month in sweatshops, like them gimps in China,.... totally unrealistic. And I'm not convinced at all that the left wants all them illegals. Obama did a good job with deporting. And we all know who is profiting from cheap labor that competes with the lowest income groups. Plenty of stories around that them illegals worked for Trump who hired them instead of America.
     

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