Yet Another PP Baby Body Part Video (#2)

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  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, now we have yet another video showing PP discussing and haggling over baby body parts.

    Gatter discusses the pricing of aborted baby body parts — telling the biotech company officials that the prices for such things as a baby’s liver, head or heart are negotiable. She also tells the officials that she could talk with the Planned Parenthood abortion practitioners to potentially alter the abortion procedure to kill the baby in a way that would best preserve those body parts after the unborn child is killed in the abortion.

    The video shows Gatter haggling over payments for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.

    “Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/...rt-selling-video-may-be-worse-than-the-first/
     
  2. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is from the same source as the earlier Planned Parenthood "sting" video. The source is not credible.

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  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    You can start all the threads you want on this dead horse but it won't stop abortion and it won't shut down PP.

    IF there is a "guilty" person the investigation will reveal any wrong doing and the law will take care of it.
     
  4. Zeffy

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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Planned Parenthood helped women who wanted to donate fetal tissue for research. No body parts were sold, there was only a fee charged for storage and expenses.
    That isn't illegal, the "sting" video was heavily edited and misrepresented what actually happened.
     
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    To be honest, I'm glad that material could end up being used for scientific research. If a person is allowed to choose to donate their body to science, I don't see the problem with using fetal remains for science either. That material could be used to develop technology that saves people's lives.

    But if anyone here has broken the law, they should be charged for it.
     
  7. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That 'material' would be a human life it the head was allowed to exit and choice is not an option for them anyway.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    You're correct, a fetus has no choice. What it would be is irrelevant because once aborted it is dead.
     
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    More debunking from Factcheck:

    It's just more "pro-life" lies, nothing new here.
     
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    To late they slipped up. Despite all the attempts at pretending that they just do it as a service she let the truth slip out at one point. She immediately tried to cover her ass afterwards but the damage is done and we see the true face of Planned Parenthood.

    There is also a problem that defenders of PP have with the second video. The PP director proposed $75 dollars but after the actor offered $100 dollars she accepted it. If it was just truly about breaking even then the PP director would have said no, $75 dollars is covers are costs and we don't need anymore. She didn't though did she? She agreed to the $100 deal which was HIGHER then her offer.

    Planned Parenthood and the people that now defend have no legs to stand on. Why the hell is PP still receiving funding from the government? That needs to stop now.

    The problem is that most pro-choice people, unlike me, are so entrenched in their political hackery that they will defend ANYTHING that has to deal with abortion no matter how disgusting or racist that organization might be. Get a clue you can be pro-choice and still be appalled by the activities and very existence of Planned Parenthood which to this day gives out an annual award named after a eugenicist and racist.
     
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    Well, in the US usually there's an investigation , then a trial and then innocence or guilt is shown.....luckily no one is thrown in jail or fined based on a suspect video.

    And obviously in the US, one guilty exec does not make or break a company...
     
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    She was a high ranking director of an entire division. In fact considering that every month or so there seems to be a new sting video about PP coming out I was surprised that she was stupid enough to even agree to the higher price. Has anyone in the history of haggling ever offered a higher price than the one offered by the store they are buying from? How stupid is the overall workforce at PP that that woman was their best choice for a director of a whole division?

    From a political angle I would love for the Democrats to keep defending PP but I am far more concerned with them still receiving federal funding. That needs to stop now.
     
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    The doctor and staff are already profiting from killing the fetus. Selling parts of the fetus for profit is merely the icing on the cake. The commodification of humanity is already well established....

    When the feminists complain about young girls being kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery...while at the same time defending their "right" to kill the fetus and subsequently sell the parts of the aborted...well you can see the hypocrisy of their argument. MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    IF one exec has been proven to have committed a crime why would you want clinics that provide accessible affordable health care for low income women and men shut down?

    Do you just hate poor people? ....... Or what?
     
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    Planned Parenthood is a non-profit. There is no "selling parts of the fetus for profit," or don't you believe Factcheck.org? Defending the debunked lying videos is willful ignorance.
     
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    By providing free and low cost contraception to poor women, Planned Parenthood reduces the number of abortions. Why do pro-lifers always want to make it harder for women to avoid unwanted pregnancies?
     
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    It is a question of time before some impoverished person intentionally gets pregnant with the motive to sell parts of the aborted fetus for profit.

    It will be a cottage industry equivalent to selling your blood plasma to meet the rent.

    This is the state of our humanity and it ain't pretty.

    A photo of a puppy being hit by a rolled up newspaper will garner more sympathy and outrage than a fetus vacuumed from the womb, vivisected and sold for parts.

    Humanity is in a death spiral in case you haven't figured that out yet.

    Debasement is the norm.
     
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    Selling fetus parts for profit is illegal. It isn't happening. Video debunked. End of story.
     
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    I am not pro-life. But unlike most of the pro-choice people here I don't blindly support a racist organization just because they are pro-choice. Newsflash.....you don't support people or groups solely because they are politically aligned. And once again. Why is PP getting federal funding. You can't claim that the government has no business in reproductive rights and then support taxpayer money going to an organization who's sole reason for existing is supposedly dealing with reproduction. Either you want the government involved or you don't. If you have no problems with taxpayer money being given to PP then you can't (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) if states pass laws that restrict access to contraceptives and abortion.
     
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    This isn't one exec. She specifically stated that "affiliates" plural "want to make a little bit more" <Off-topic/Rule 2/3>
     
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    I would love for her to wake up one morning, immobilized. While people talked around her bidding on your still functioning body parts.
    Brain aint worth nothing, but maybe a liver or kidney can save a young person.
     
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    But you believe the pro-life fabricated lies about PP? Why is PP racist? Do you believe the debunked lie that PP's clinics are in black neighborhoods?

    I support Planned Parenthood because it is an upstanding, reputable organization that provides health services to poor women who could not otherwise afford them. It is probably the most heavily scrutinized, the most investigated organization in existence, but the best its critics can come up with is lying edited videos?

    Abortion is only 3% of PP's services. No taxpayer money funds abortion; it helps provide cancer screening, contraception, pregnancy testing, and prenatal care for poor women. It helps poor women, that's why it gets federal funding.

    Again, the government is not involved with funding abortion. That is prohibited by the Hyde Amendment with the exception of a tiny number of Medicaid recipients for rape, incest or life of the woman. Federal funding to Planned Parenthood for other health services does not justify government intrusion in all women's reproductive decisions.
     
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    PP gets federal funding. PP is a nonprofit that has no business getting federal funding for ANYTHING. This is isn't just about the abortions this is about everything that PP does. If you are OK with PP getting federal funding then you are OK with states restricting access to abortions or contraceptives. You cannot have it both ways. Either you want government involved in reproductive issues or you don't. I don't want to hear a single complaint about some state making it harder to open an abortion clinic or preventing sex ed classes being taught because those same people were either silent about PP or they went so far as to defend it.

    What part about her accepting the $100 dollar HIGHER price was edited. For crying out loud she actually accepted a higher price offered to her than the one SHE suggested.

    I have been over PPs racism before. They have the majority of their clinics in urban black areas. Where are all the clinics in Appalachia or other areas where there are far more poor white people. Where are all their clinics in middle and upper class cities? Lots of liberal and moderate enclaves all over the place but you don't see nearly as many PP clinics in those as you do when you get into the inner cities. Why is that? Do white girls simply not get pregnant when they have sex?

    When half of the abortions are coming from one ethnic group that comprises less than 8% of the total population you need to take a serious look at your policies.

    I have already been over the history of PP with you. You defended their racism and their continued racist policies. The Margeret Sanger award is given out to this day every year. Margerat Sanger was a eugenicist and she directly appointed a nationaly known author who wrote books on the inferiority and superiority of various races to run her organization, Planned Parenthood. She was a racist.
     
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    """""""You defended their racism and their continued racist policies."""""""


    Inflammatory flamebaiting personal attack.....
     
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    Why would you say PP "has no business getting federal funding for anything"??? Should other non-profit charitable hospitals and public health programs be denied federal funding? Or just Planned Parenthood?

    I'm not having it both ways, you are. You want to deny federal funding to Planned Parenthood AND restrict access to abortions, do you not? Federal funding of other services performed by Planned Parenthood doesn't justify restricting access to abortions or contraception. Why punish pregnant women because Planned Parenthood gets funding for cancer screening? That makes zero sense.

    There is nothing to "defend" about Planned Parenthood. It provides safe legal abortions and other health services for poor women. Why does that need to be defended?

    If she accepted a higher amount for storage, transportation, and other expenses, how does that make her guilty of anything?

    Wrong, why are you so gullible to believe all the pro-life propaganda?

    http://www.factcheck.org/2011/11/cains-false-attack-on-planned-parenthood/


    Why would Planned Parenthood put a clinic in a sparsely populated area? In fact, 87% of US counties lack abortion providers.

    See the above Factcheck link.

    NO, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOURS. Black women have more abortions because they have more unwanted pregnancies which are reduced by access to sex education and affordable birth control. BUT YOU, YOU want to defund PP where poor women can access them. I'm guessing you want to repeal Obamacare which gives women better access to birth control. In your post above you tried to justify state laws restricting access to contraception. WTH? Restrict access to contraception??? The thing that reduces unwanted pregnancies? What can you be thinking???

    You are saying Planned Parenthood is racist because Margaret Sanger was (she wasn't). That is a logical fallacy, and just plain goofy.
     

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