You are required by law to own a gun

Assume for the moment...

Congress has exercised its Article 1 Section 8 powers to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, by requiring all able bodied citizens legally able to own a gun to buy, at their own expense. a rifle suitable for use with the militia, ammunition and magazines suitable for this purpose, and regularly train with it.

Specifically-
-The rifle must be semi-auto or select fire with a detachable magazine chambered in 5.56x45m 7.62x51 or 7.62x39. It must be a derivative of any service rifle put into service on or after1950 (more broadly, for those of you who know little about firearms -- an 'assault weapon').. The citizen must also acquire sufficient 20-30 round magazines to carry a basic load of 300 rounds of suitable ammunition, as well as 500 rounds of said ammunition; if 20-30 rd magazines are not available for the riffle in question, the largest capacity magazine will suffice.

-Citizens must train with their rifle at least every other year by attending the US military's Small Arms Firing School; or equivalent. The year in which citizens are required to attend based on the eve/odd last digit of their SSN.

-Citizens not meeting these criteria will pay a tax of $2500 in every year that they fail meet these requirements; revenue from this tax will subsidize the cost of those schools and fund a program for those who who seek to comply with the law but are economically unable to do so.

-The Federal requirement for the purchase and possession of an 'assault weapon' and magazines supersedes any state or local regulations to the contrary.

Question:
Would you buy an 'assault weapon' and 'hi-cap magazines' and train with it, or would you pay the tax?

 

Neither.........

 

They can do that, but...

...requiring those things are NOT covered by Art.1, Sec.8 so law(s) would have to be passed which most likely wouldn't be held as being Constitutional.

 

They did it in 1792 and a few times after that; congressional power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia is quite broad.

So... which do you choose?

 

You're not good with hypotheticals.

If you read the first sentence: Assume for a moment...

IF you had to choose...which would it be?

 

IF the article WAS applied, the "choices" wouldn't be what was described in the OP.

I'm good with hypothetical, just not with decerebrate hypothetical choices.

 

Fair enough.

 

Sounds like a good time. I'm in.

 

But you are required to buy health insurance according to Obama's, if that is his name, Constitution.

 

But they are.
Buy the rifle and train, or pay that tax.
Those are the choices.

 

hey, why waste tax dollars on welfare-lets supply the citizenry with practice ammo.

 

And they are decerebrate choices as I have already explained.

 

They did that when and because they had such a small standing army.

How's our army today?

 

It is not unprecedented for our government to require every citizen to purchase items from the consumer market, or punish them with a punitive tax if they don't.

As for my answer: I already have the required equipment, and I already devote the required time to training. So no $2500 tax penalty for me.

 

I would probably comply as long as I am not required to keep the damn thing unlocked or loaded. I might put it in a safe somewhere off my property, until I was obliged to get it for training.

 

Oh okay so you want health control then, is that right?

 

Forcing citizens to purchase health insurance or pay a fine isn't constitutional either yet it has happened.

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Lol...

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Same...

 

Explain.
Given the law put in place, what other choice do you have?

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I'm sorry -- didn't see your response.
Which do you choose?

 

Since I am already grandfathered in, it would not matter to me.

Second, you are forgetting the exceptions. Even the ACA has exceptions to the tax. Not the same thing in your hypothetical case.

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It was constitutional based on the decision of the Supreme Court. In addition, there are exemptions on not to have insurance ranging from having Medicare/Medicaid, certain Native American insurance programs, exemptions from employers, etc. So, it is not the same thing here.

 

AH-64 Apache. Go big or go home.

 

You are not very good at constructing strawman arguments.

 

I'm good with it

 

You're not very good at constructing an argument for your agenda, so I guess we're even.

 

All lovers of freedom are just as opposed to forcing everyone to own a gun as they are opposed to forcing everyone to not own a gun.

 

... nope; some on the left believe in the natural right to not be as well regulated as gun lovers.