Young earth vs old earth theory?

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Do you believe in a young earth or old earth theory?

  1. Old earth... up to five billion or so years old.

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  2. A somewhat old earth... perhaps tens or hundreds of thousands of years old

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  3. A relatively young earth.... less than twenty thousand years old

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  4. I believe that the earth is roughly seven thousand years old.

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  1. Cougarbear

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    What does that have to do with anything? Kids don't talk about school anyway. "Son, how did school go today?" Fine
     
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    And it shows .. do you think it is a good thing not to talk politics ? Perhaps you should take log out of own eye before calling others strange.
     
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    You don’t get it. There is no place for politics in math and science courses.
     
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    Guess you don’t know what socialism is.
     
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    That’s...... . Every state has both parties and political points of view. They all suffer during repugnant lead recessions.....of which we’re in another.
    You’re talking about the sixth biggest economy in the world. It supports all those red states with uninformed republicans on welfare.
     
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    Where did you say that previously ?

    In any case .. what does this have to do with young earth creationism ?
     
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    Burp !
     
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    There is no place for politics in science which debunks religious made up stories.
     
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    Agreed :)
     
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    In those red states, the only unemployed are loser Democrats who live off other people's money. No, California doesn't support a thing except socialism and incompetency.
    Of course every state has at least two parties. But, not equally divided as you want us to believe. Red States and Blue snakes.
     
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    Ha ha,
    According to a Pew Research Center poll released this week, Democrats are now the party of college graduates, especially those with post-graduate work. Meanwhile, people with a high-school degree or less, by far the larger group, slightly lean toward Republicans.

    They tend to earn less money.
     
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    Show me a nation with a science-hostile government, and I'll show you a society with failing health, wealth, & security.
    - Neil deGrasse Tyson-
     
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    And, you just showed a couple of important points we've been making. Democrats are no longer the party of the little guy hard working black, white, Hispanic folk. You are now the party of the wealthy and elite. Also, as I've been pointing out, through the Alinsky Rules for Radicals and Bill Ayers approach, the Marxist antifa's had to go back to the universities and become the "Man." The Man of the 60's and 70's was Democrats and Republicans that were not Marxists. They may have been progressives and liberals, but not leftists like Bill Ayers, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Schumer and many others. So, of course now the leftist educators have polluted the minds of the young into thinking their Marxist ways. Whether Conservatives can reverse this or not, don't know. But, it should be a wake up call to all those who love the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States.
     
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    Just the opposite. Education opens doors for those who didn’t inherit their wealth. Get off your asteroid and go to school, you’ve a much better chance of success. You’re just throwing woo woo out there like it means something.
     
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    Oh no! You said it. They are of the well educated university smarts now. Not the hard working brick layer, welder, mechanic, car maker and other manufacturing job worker. That's no longer your party you said. The Democrat party is now the party of the elite once denounced by Democrats! Union bosses need to wake up before they become obsolete by Democrat politicians.
     
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    That’s a joke isn’t it ? All manufacturing jobs are dwindling because of automation. Automation is fast replacing many of the jobs you mention. There are tens of thousands unfilled engineering jobs that are slowly going overseas or given to better educated foreign nations. Remember Trump, opening coal mines so survivors can have more black lung. ? That’s a perfect example how the gop loves ignorance and hates education. Go to school, learn a trade or occupation and find out the right’s bogus polices are donor driven. Heaven forbid you learn a little science and find out Miscow Mitch is an idiot for denying climate change..

    Education ALWAYS drives higher average salaries.....always.
     
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    This one is even funnier. The illusion that college educated people don’t work hard is a fallacy. Many that do manual labor suffer severe income loss as they age and can’t physically do the work. People who work with their minds work well into their seventies often supporting those with physical limitations who had to retire early by paying more in taxes.
     
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    I wrote up something a few years ago that has gotten quite a few Atheists rethinking the bigger picture.


    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    Not stupid. Brainwashed.

    For many the brainwashing took place at an early age before the victims had developed critical thinking. An argument could be made that religious indoctrination of young children is child abuse.
     
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    Who are these unnamed individuals you mention and what evidence for a young earth have they presented in peer reviewed scientific publications?
     
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    I believe in an old Earth. That is what science tells us. I also believe in GOD and the bible. I believe in evolution and that GOD created evolution (or what we think it is). We still have a long way to go to fully understand it, but I trust the Lord that we will. I have written an article showing how Genesis 1 is a basic outline of evolution. From star formation to biology, it is all part of the same process. When I get time, I will update it and post it here. In Moses’ time, the first 11 chapters of Genesis were already ancient. The Pentateuch is considered to have at least four authors (Moses writing the majority of it). But he clearly edited them together as one narrative. That probably presented an issue with continuity. I believe that those chapters that came after Abraham are more accurate than those that came before.

    Where I have issues is that nowhere in the Bible does it say that lineages and timelines that are referenced are sequential and contiguous. This was an error made by Bishop Ussher in the 17th Century. He made that assumption with a literal reading of the Bible and wrongly determined that the Earth was only 6000 years old. The only thing that you can accurately say is that the Bible covers a non-contiguous span of about 6000 years. If he lived today, I doubt he would have made that mistake. Of course, the counter of young-earthers is that Satan has placed falsehoods in sight, like fossils that appear to be millions of years old. But what is the better deception? That a fossil is a fraud or science to believe that it is not, creating enmity between science and religion? Satan still has a reputation to uphold. Eventually we will make contact with extraterrestrials and that will change the way we think of everything, including our place in the universe. The devil still needs to be credible. He’s not going to waste time with trivial things. He’s better at deception than outright lying (yet a good lie goes far). If you didn’t catch that, we hear people say to follow the science but they really mean, follow the consensus. It is the narrative that becomes more important than the facts. Science is not a consensus. And Satan uses that. We see that big time today in many things.

    I think Genesis represents up to about 160-200 thousand years. Adam and Eve were the first Homo sapiens. Noah’s ark occurred as the planet was coming out of the Younger-Dryas, some 10-12 thousand years ago (although there were two other warming periods in that 200k span). At that time, Tibet had a huge ice sheet covering it. As it got warmer, the ice sheet melted. The Himalayas formed a natural dam. At some point that dam was breached in at least two places. Those breaches still exist. You can see them on satellite images. In the east, the smaller breach came in Yunnan. The terrain shows where a massive amount of water has flowed. Same thing in the west, the larger breach came through Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Iran. Flooded up through the NW of Iran probably reaching as far as Ararat. That's a lot of water. “East of Eden” is within that path. The Tower of Babel had to be a few thousand years later, so that Babylonian, Egyptian, and other cultures could be established to fit in the historical record.
     
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    Wow!!!!!!!!!

    Your belief pattern is very, very, very similar to my own.

    If you are up for some good humoured fun... you might just like the sarcasm here:



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-christianity.501009/page-34#post-1072460381

    Then again....... you might be profoundly offended..........
    but I do hope not!


    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    Sorry.... I can't resist....... but some potentially relevant evidence was donated to the Smithsonian and........ well.......


    Did museums ever destroy skeletons of giants?


     
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    God is the designer, but IMO He did not create earth in 6 literal days and/or Eve from Adam's rib.

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    Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai testifies that he was shown that Moses.....
    was given the Book of Genesis while he was up on the mountain with YHWH!

    No wonder that computer guys are finding more and more and more and more unusual codes in the Book of Genesis.......



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