Zika virus sparks abortion debate in Brazil

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Vegas giants

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    Nope. How does a person with pancreatic cancer interfere with the rights of another? Does that person live in the uterus of another person?
     
  2. Battle3

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    The point is that when people see what the subject is, then all your printed words that you wave around trying to hide the real issue simply fall away into nothing.

    The nation was founded on the rule of law, which means that the law applies to all people equally regardless of their wealth or standing, which means that babies who cannot speak in their own defense still have the protections of the law. The legal system protects the innocent, it assumes innocence until proven guilty. It is up to the abortionist to prove the baby either does not have any rights or deserves to be punished with death.

    Slavery used to be the law also. Abortion will go the same route as slavery, abortionists will be held with as much contempt and spite as slavers.

    Notice that no abortionist in this discussion makes any attempt to address the status of the baby. There is a lot of flat statements that its not a human, there is whining that "its the law", there is no justification of their position that the baby is not a human deserving protection.
     
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    Thankfully no babies are involved in a legal abortion.

    So even with all your sign waving abortion remains legal in every town, city, county and state in the US. Keep it up. LOL
     
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    Not for long. It took 100 years to correct the blight of slavery, but it was corrected. Over those 100 years, there were people who justified slavery and all its inhuman activities by claiming it was legal and blacks were not human. Now those slavers are viewed with disgust, people with slave holding in their ancestry hide it in shame and fear. Abortionists are in the same camp as slavers. When the blight of abortion has been corrected, you will deny ever having supported the murder of babies and will hope your words never come to light.
     
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    Well you keep working at it. You have made so much progress so far. Lol
     
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    You stated your standard is that 50% must survive to be granted human status. If less than 50% survive, then its simply a "medical miracle" and not worth society's investment or the suffering these people will endure. To save them suffering and save society the cost of trying to create a "medical miracle", your attitude is to just kill them.
     
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    Yes. Because they are worth as much as an infected tooth
     
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    Yes, we have. That's why Planned Parenthood and the "progressives" are so vitriolic and filled with hate, they see they are on the wrong side of history and are afraid.
     
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    It is your side that kills doctors and blows up clinics. Sounds pretty hateful to me
     
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    Now you are just scrabbling around.

    Either the adaption provided a benefit or it didn't.

    If it didn't then something else might have evolved such a cell that was sensitive to heat.
     
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    Thank you for disqualifying yourself from any further meaningful participation on this topic.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    In the instance of the Zika virus abnormalities - they are not genetic mutations. In fact they probably have perfectly normal genes and DNA - what has happened is that the virus has attacked the developing brain
     
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    :roflol: Then run away, I expected you would rather than address the one fundamental issue that the entire abortion debate revolves around - the status of the baby. All you have to do is convince pro-life people that its not a baby but a "mass of cells" and all the resistance goes away.
     
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    I don't think anyone could convince "Pro-Life" people that science is real.

    They still insist that if they call a fetus a baby something will change :roflol:
     
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    In the past 30 years, how many abortionists have been killed? 11 total. How many abortion mills have been bombed? 9 attempts total. Hardly an indictment of the pro-life community particularly since in every case the pro-life community denounced the attackers and violent methods.

    In the past 30 years, how many late term abortions have been performed? The pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute claims its a bit over 1,000 babies past 24-weeks gestation are aborted a year, so that's 30,000 babies murdered. More objective estimates put the number of late term abortions at 1% of all abortions, which would be in the 10,000 a year range making it 300,000 babies murdered over 30 years.

    That's just late term (24 weeks and later), which all agree are viable.

    30,000 versus 11.

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    Ironic since all you have ever done is run away from the FACT that the fetus has no legal rights.
     
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    Sorry. Murder is a legal term and again you get the terms wrong. Murder is the unlawful killing of a PERSON with malice aforethought. Your side has committed murder. Mine has not. And you defend them.
     
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    It should be obvious to every rational person that your argument carries no weight, just like the argument 200 years ago that slavery was legal. If you want to change minds, you have to address the issue.
     
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    It has been addressed loud and clear. you are simply deaf
     
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    Who's the slave in your analogy? The fetus? or the woman forced to use her body against her will?

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    And dishonest....as most "pro-lifers" are. The use of "baby"....when they mean fetus or embryo....or even a freshly fertilized egg.
     
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    Obviously the baby is the slave, and the abortionists are the slavers who hold up their politically purchased law granting them legal ownership of other people.
     
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    LOL, show anywhere that I have defended people who killed or bombed in the fight against abortion. Now you are simply lying.
     
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    Obviously the woman is the slave and the fetus is the attacker
     
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    Really? How does the fetus attack the mother? How does the fetus gain access to the mother to implement this so-called "attack"? LOL, you are spouting the utterly ridiculous "self-defense" argument, one of the most asinine abortionist justifications ever.
     
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    How does lung cancer attack a person. Often that is invited in as well. And then you cut it out.
     

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