Zimmerman Trial (Thurs July 11) ~ Continued MOD ALERT

Does it make any sense to any of you that we allow the state to go last with our court system, or at least in Florida?

 

See, right there is where your preconceived beliefs and your soft heart are preventing you from seeing logic. GZ expected the police to show up at any moment...after all, HE called them. Also, even assuming that it was TM calling for help for over a minute and a half, one would expect the neighbors close to the confrontation would be looking to see what was going on. If GZ was such a mastermind where he acted on his knowledge of self-defense or STG, it is not logical that he would have committed an act of murder in front of a bunch of potential witnesses and possibly the police.

If the police had arrived a minute or two earlier, it would have been TM that would have been arrested for assault. He was the one on top pounding the other person and he had no marks on him, while GZ had obvious injuries.

 

I missed most of Bozo's closing.........just curious, has the prosecution yet come up with a theory as to what happened that fateful night? In replays I see Bozo arguing that it was impossible for GZ to get his gun out with Trayvon on top........but the prosecution, and everyone else, are in agreement now that Trayvon was on top......and GZ pulled his gun out and shot the No-Limit-(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).......so I don't really understand this line of reasoning......

 

Ignorance is bliss isn't it?

 

What ifs don't answer the time dilation when you are stressed. How long did it go on, 45 seconds? Think about it. Fights usually don't last long because it is very tiring but you had one person, young and a fighter, that could easily outlast soft Zimmerman. When you are getting pounded, 15 seconds seem like an eternity. The police were seconds away, in hindsight. Zimmerman did not know when they would arrive. It could be to late if it were minutes.

 

The prosecution can make up any story they want simply because Zimmy didn't take the stand ... I made that decree a year and a half ago.

 

You are correct, but those stories need to create reasonable doubt that GZ's "story" is true. Just because someone have an alternative scenario, it does not necessarily create that doubt.

 

It was honestly hard to follow, especially at the end. Bernie did try pretty hard, he pointed out and made a big deal of some of the minor inconsistencies in GZ's statements. He was saying that GZ assumed that TM was a criminal, and that if he (GZ) was truly scared why did he get out of his car (among other things, these details stood out to me, though).

However, in the end he kind of tailed off. If I would guess, I think he was making more of a manslaughter argument although if I do recall he did mention second degree murder still.

It wasn't a bad closing argument, but it really wasn't much that we haven't already heard from them. Prosecutions normally save their best stuff for the rebuttal after the defense closes, so we'll see.

As someone who tries to remain objective, it wasn't enough to change my mind. I still say they (the prosecution) have not been able to remove reasonable doubt nor prove that GZ was telling lies.

 

Zimmerman's testimony is evidence. No need to go over the same thing a year or so later just to find inconsistencies that would inevitably arise due to time.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-misled-jury-closing-re/#.Ud88drSIoGE.twitter

Man, I am scooping everybody today. I caught that in BDLR's statement today also. I had a feeling it was intentional to try and show George knew Trayvon was dead when later he said he didn't know. BDLR and his dirty tricks. But the State also thinks that George not allowing Trayvon to kill him is child abuse so what do ya expect from these folks.

 

Well, they go first in opening statements. And they go first is presentation of their case and evidence. And they go first in the main closing statement.

The only "last" that they get is a bit of a mini-rebuttal closing statement. There are guidelines that restrict its scope. But if BDLR wants to hop around the Courtroom again, I am all for it ! In the words of Napoleon:

"Then, gentlemen, let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him."

Or in the more common vernacular :

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

BLDR reminds me of that song "Dancing Fool".

[video=youtube;dI0SIg4njx0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0SIg4njx0[/video]

 

Where is the evidence that M was on Z's armpits? The Prosecutor SAID that today but as far as I know there is no evidence.

 

Just caught another snippet of Bozo's closing........my gosh.......he reminds of so many Trayvonistas here on PF.............he said GZ had "18 months of MMA training"........a bald faced lie based upon the record of evidence........this prosecution team should all be disbarred, at minimum, after this circus is over. By the way, has there been an Angela Nifong sighting lately?

 

You must've missed Zimmy shaking his head in dismay all argument long ... yeah, he looked like he had something to say ... LOL.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/353105/judge-confronts-zimmerman-testy-exchange-dimitrios-halikias

 

LMAO. Can't say it surprises me. The prosecution has tried to distort facts and change words so it suits their case.

I was still stunned that the judge didn't allow that third degree felony charge, just based on how she's favored the prosecution for the majority of this trial.

 

At this juncture if you're not aware of all evidence and testimony ... well, I'm not going to rehash it.

 

Zimmy wasn't the only one shaking their head.

 

Again, I keep forgetting that you are watching something else. A soap maybe?

 

I saw that too, but my thought was more like he shook his head as to say "you got it all wrong, Bernie, that's not what happened." To me that's more like disbelief vice dismay.

 

You're talking about the rogue zimmy sympathizer juror who didn't look at Dee Dee all during her testimony ... hopefully she's an alternate but doesn't know it.

 

No. They haven't. BDLR tried to hint at all kinds of stuff, but he was several degrees removed into assumptions as it was. It was pathetic. He still intimates that George is a mastermind and manipulator of even the smartest most experienced folks. I guess that means that whatever the evidence says, don't believe it, cause George is that cunning. So he's guilty no matter what !!

 

Correct ... he has no choice but to sit there and listen to any story the prosecution wants to perpetuate.

 

Just like the Jury. Until sometime later tomorrow. Then they (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slap the Prosecution. Then George (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slaps the Prosecution. Then George goes to CBS and NBC and CNN for his big paychecks !! And that is just the start !!

 

Yeah, GZ is counting on his statements and the evidence + testimony to be enough.

I thought the Tweet by Jose Baez was interesting, his exact words were "A juror nodded yes when asked if they felt Zimmerman was innocent!"

I'm like that too, I give away my emotions/thoughts unintentionally by nodding sometimes when someone is talking to me or asking me a question.