Zimmermans Bond Revoked

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  1. Jebediah

    Jebediah Banned

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    I don't have any intention to "argue it" at the moment. I have to read reliable sources first. If you look at all the posts on this thread several conflicting things have been said. I just want to understand for my own education.

    Anyway as SkyStryker said pages ago Zimmerman lied about the $200K. That's perjury and a free trip back to the pokey. The rest is icing. You cannot lie under oath about your ASSETS and a BAIL hearing.
     
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    Not a problem. Z admitted to shooting and killing T. unless he can explain how it was justified, he will be convicted even if the prosecution does not completely fulfill it's role.
     
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    Just quoting the cops dude.
     
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    Well, if one thing is sure. There's plenty of suckers who are going to send Z money. And there are plenty of attorneys that will want that money.
     
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    Um. The charge is 2nd degree murder. A killing does not equal murder. Even with confession the burden is always on the prosecution.

    The legal critera for proving self-defense is much lower than reasonable doubt. In Florida all Zimmerman has to prove was he was scared and it is legally self defense.

    So lets go with that. All Zimmeran has to do is prove self defense and he goes free.

    Good night.
     
  6. SkyStryker

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    There is no evidence that was happening before the shooting. In fact, the evidence shows that before the shooting, T tried to avoid any altercation and a witness heard T saying get off before the gun was fired less than 60 seconds later.
     
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    How is that wrong? Our justice system is built on "innocent until proven guilty". So in this case, the prosecution has to prove it was Murder and not self defense. Right now, if you were to look at Z's criminal record, would there be a murder conviction on it?
     
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    He will be claiming common law self defense although the burden of proof at trial is the same.
     
  9. Jebediah

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    Naw "The Z Deal" is to shoot an unarmed teenager in the chest, admit it, and then stroll out of the police station a few hours later humming along to Classical Gas on your ipod.
     
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    Honestly, do you realize when the account was set up, Zimmerman was in jail and never once saw it ever? Its so lame to put it on him.
     
  11. SkyStryker

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    He doesn't have to prove he was scared. He has to explain why it was justified.
     
  12. Courtney203

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    Actually, his girlfriend heard this on the phone.. But If we were to go on with your assumption that credibility is the measure of this case, I would probably dismiss this evidence wholehartedly if I were you. But you are not really interested in following your own criteria when it comes to Martin, only when it conviniently fits your convoluted case against Zimmerman.
     
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    Z set the account up HIMSELF.

    Good grief I wish you people defending Z would learn the facts.
     
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    He had already been charged with murder.. How is he going to casually stroll out of the police station or the country after that.. Especially with a GPS bracelet on?
     
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    So, People with cancer set up their own accounts to raise funds, are they guilty of murder to?
     
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    Dee was not his girlfriend. My criteria for credibility is based on any proof of the witness lying. Can you show where she lied? I can show where Z, his dad, his wife, and his lawyer all lied.
     
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    By a preponderence but again the burden of proof is on the prosecution to that was not happening beyond a reasonable doubt, Zimmerman does not have to prove it was, doubt goes to the defendant.

    The evidence is quite the obvious and there is no evidence Zimmerman attacked Martin or confronted him at all.
    A prejudiced witness who embellished the facts with speculation and who in her initial statements did not say she heard Martin saying get off but that the phone went dead when she heard someone get pushed. No other witness heard the words get-off, there is no get-off on the 911 call.

    Not beyond a reasonable doubt. The injuries are quite clear as to whom was receiving a beating and who was shot.
     
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    Goodness!!! Rosepop claimed the account was set up after Z was in jail so he couldn't possibly have known the details therefore he couldn't have lied about it at the hearing.

    Do you get it now?
     
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    im sure if the media were to dive deep enough into her life, they would find plenty of lies.
     
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    So the guy did not want to be locked up in jail until the case was heard in court. WOW!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!! definatly guilty of murder!
     
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    The investigator said at the bond hearing Z confronted T. But don't let facts get in your way. Then again you also claimed T circled Z's car then denied ever saying it.
     
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    I'm talking about lies directly related to the case. Please try to keep up.
     
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    I think Sky is posting from his moms basement on Uranus and laws are different there or something.
     
  24. SkyStryker

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    He claimed to be indigent while having well over a hundred thousand in HIS bank account. Will you ever address the actual facts???
     
  25. SkyStryker

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    I'm smart enough to know Z set the account up himself. Did you figure that part out yet?????
     
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