Does Romney have a shot?

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  1. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'll be voting for johnson as well, but my johnson won't be running for elective office this time around, rather, he'll be running up my leg looking for a female counterpart to vote for him in the upcoming season of love.
     
  2. bballerinri2

    bballerinri2 New Member

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    You just twisted my words, how sad. I said many people on here are racist! It has nothing to do with Obama, on every other page I see a swastika, or someone blaming everything on the jewish community, hell someone even said on this thread I must be "drinking some anti-Romney koolaid" which does seem racist but don't worry I did ask if they were being racist or not. So here's another person that jumps to conclusions, so you sir are the "intellectually lame".
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    I said you should retract your smear accusing him of being a draft dodger.


    No it was just hyperbole and now you want to engage in the ad hominem.

    Bone up on the facts and get back to me when you want to discuss the issues and not engage in baseless, fallacious smears.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    I think you see racism because you want to not because it exist as in your claiming "drinking the kool-aid" is a racist term. How intellectually lame.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Then I hope you will enjoy another 4 years of Obama.
     
  6. big daryle

    big daryle New Member

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    Not only does he have a chance, he should destroy oboobma's sorry black ass. At least Romney knows how to work and be successful.
     
  7. bballerinri2

    bballerinri2 New Member

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    Now I know you're just trying to (*)(*)(*)(*) me off, I clearly stated "drinking some anti-Romney koolaid" which does seem racist but don't worry I did ask if they were being racist or not." I even asked the person if they were being racist before jumping to conclusions like yourself, is this really the best you've got? Quite sad to see you're being man handled by a 16 year old, ha.

    Edit: P. I. S. $ is a bad word on here?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    As I said I believe you are trying to see racism where you want as evidence by you claiming "drinking some anti-Romney koolaid" which does seem racist". And yes it is an entirely intellectually lazy response to people and not worthy of being called debate.
     
  9. JoeSixpack

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    Sorry I can't. He was already doing everything he needed too, to evade the draft. Just because the opportunity didn't present itself changes nothing. He is the essence of a chicken hawk. He talks the talk but would never be bothered by having to walk the walk. Just for the sake of argument I believe Obama would have done the same thing, so our opinions on whether they could be depended on in a fighting situation is completely irrelevant.


    What I would like from you or anybody who can read the gibberish on his website, is facts, that will convince me or any other concerned voter that Romney is the best selection, other than the obvious, he isn't Obama, or the continuous, huh-uh...


    I'll ask again in your own words what will Romney do that is any different from what Bush and Obama have already done or tried. Is that too much to ask for somebody who claims to know?
     
  10. bballerinri2

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    I wasn't sure if it was racism or not that's why I asked, I figured it might be because of the other racism I've seen on this forum, at least I didn't jump to a conclusion and say "omfg you're such a racist" I mean come on you've seen racism on this forum don't lie. You have to think a person means the worst, but why did you even bring this up? If it's not something worth debating?
     
  11. Libhater

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    C-mon bluebird, recognize the humor.
     
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    the religious right doesn't support Romney, so does he have a shot, imo no he doesn't, cause like it or not republicans, the religious right is a big percentage of your votes
     
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    After Mittens Yarmulke groveling tour of Israel last week I think that he picked up some creds from the "Christian" zionist crowd....If he can convince these lunitics that he will be a compliant tool for Netanyahu he'll get their votes in November...
     
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    Are you even aware of the universal status that can be applied to this grand logic you've surmised? You thought Barack deserved a chance?
     
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    OK lets look at a few of the richest Americans in 2010. Sheldon Anderson in the news lately for supporting Republican Platforms, hardly came from a wealthy family, but as most the rich, learned to work hard early in life.

    Oh my here we go again, Warren Buffett also had formed good work ethics by age 14 and is still working today at age 83, lives in a modest home he bought decades ago.

    These quotes came from Wikipedia's bio's which show that most of today's very wealthy were in fact not upper middle class. Sam Walton, whose business career accounts for four of the top 10 or so people, also helped create thousands of millionaires who dared to invest in his business model/plan.

    I could give you hundreds of examples of how people from lower middle class families, even to extremely poor, made fortunes based on their ideas and talents, granting that family support has always been important but not critical.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jackson_5
     
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    He was a missionary 3 YEARS BEFORE the draft even existed. He was never in threat of being drafted. Admit you made a specious claim and retract it.
    OK then Obama is a draft dodger too.

    So no one who did not serve in the military should be allowed to hold elective office? Clinton didn't, Obama didn't.


    If you aren't going to listen to them both and make up your mind which is better I can't help you.

    I hope he does what Bush did and that is to make it easier and more profitable for people to start or expand business and get out of the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why would YOU prefer Obama over Romney?
     
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    Oh like they will vote for someone else..................you're grasping at straws.

    Give us a reason to vote FOR Obama.
     
  18. JoeSixpack

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    All I said was the majority of the top ten are rich because of who their parents were or due to the class structure they grew up in. The majority did. Warren's dad was a politician, with connections, so three people who grew up in the years when the USA still had an 'American Dream' (where you could actually work and be recognized/awarded for that work) economy do not come any where near making up the majority of ten.

    For every hundred you can name (and I never claimed there were not some) there are several hundred more who had opportunities either by birth or situation, that are not available to the average American in this cronyism plutocracy the two party system has created. The actual numbers in comparison with the number of people who work but receive little compensation is dismal in comparison to the rosy picture you are trying to paint. Some can/do, but most will not, statistically speaking.
     
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    Romney really doesn't have a shot, because he's such an unlikable guy. The more he talks, the more people dislike him. To quote one of my Republican relatives "I don't like Obama, but he gets my vote because Romney creeps me out."

    Reagan, Clinton, Obama, heck even Dubya, they could all turn on the charm. Not Mitt. Romney oozes insincerity, being unable to hide the contempt he holds for anyone who isn't a member of the country club set. Most candidates know how to fake being interested. Not Romney. He's emotionally incapable of lowering himself to the level of the common man. That's a problem all the money in the world can't fix.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    I don't think Romney has what it takes to get elected. He's too inconsistent; his numbers with women are dropping sharply across the nation according to various news sources. He may get a bump up from the conventions, which is normally what happens, but people will most likely stay with the status quo for another four years; Obama is not as bad as many in here will lead you to believe and I believe in November, election day will prove me right.
     
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    I think that Romney is the next president of this country.
     
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    He needs to start drilling in to the minds of the American about Obama's Department of Justice appointees running rough shot over Constitutional law, in particular checks and balances, the bill of rights, and the 14th Amendment. I imagine after the convention Obama will either win again or spend most of his time on the defensive and white people will vote him out.
     
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    Please go play your semantics someplace else. The USA draft was instituted in 1940 and went until 1972, and 60% of the people who evaded the draft either to replenish the ranks or to be involved in police actions or other war like activities, did so from educational or preferential deferments. The numbers you keep referring to are from 1969 to 1972, and as I said that was the numbers deemed necessary to do the job at hand and those numbers could have changed at any time had the need grown. From what I can find Romney got 2 deferments for education and one for religion, so please drop the BS spin.

    Feel free to insult Obama all you wish I don't care about him either.


    I've listened to both of the used car salesmen candidates. Since nothing they say ever makes any real sense I was hoping you heard or understood something that I hadn't. Obviously you haven't. Thanks for not helping anyway.


    Bush made it easier for business? When in the heck did that happen? Republicans had the world by the balls for 6 years and they pissed it away. We got endless wars, with no exit plan, which lead to getting stuck with a stonewalled congress at the end of his disaster, that did nothing, except follow Bush and his corporate welfare bailouts, and then we got Obama who continued more of the same thanks to Bush. Yea he did a great job.

    I actually prefer neither. A poke in the eye with a sharp stick or a pencil, isn't an option from where I am sitting. You on the other hand seem to prefer one over the other, and I am simply trying to understand the twisted logic being used to justify one over the other. Do you even know?
     
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    That's not the way the state by state polls are leaning though. Obama is given a 60-70% chance of winning from most electoral projections.
     

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