Rich Folks Are Just An Obama Diversion Tactic...

Obama controlling GM could be seen as a form of fascism.

 

no it couldn't. because that is not what fascism is. nor is obama controlling GM. the govn't is a minority shareholder.

 

Fascism is a jampot of joviality because of its multiple definitions. To highlight its right wing nature, however, there are several elements we can refer to. I’d first refer to Keserich’s definition of fascism as “the reactionary and terroristic dictatorship of finance capital”. I'd then describe how fascism is incompatible with left wing political economy. Zanden (1960, American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol 19, pp 399-411) is a good source. First, the movement is characterised by anti-intellectualism (“obedience, discipline, faith and a religious belief in the cardinal tenets of the Fascist creed are put forth as the supreme values of a perfect Fascist. Individual thinking along independent lines is discouraged. What is wanted is not brains, daring ideas, or speculative faculties, but character pressed in the mold of Fascism”). That is closer to a worship of alienation. Second, we have the belief in the distribution of innate ability (i.e. the Theory of the Elites where those with a natural talent for ruling rule over the masses). A lefty, on the other hand, appreciates the destructiveness of class. Third, we have a reaction against democracy: “the mass of men is created to be governed and not to govern; is created to be led and not to lead, and is created, finally, to be slaves and not masters: slaves of their animal instincts, their physiological needs, their emotions, and their passions”. That aint liberalism! Fourth, we have “fascism is in its broadest meaning a revolt against the modern age, against democratisation, secularisation and internationalism”. That is conservatism!

 

Obama fired the CEO and put in his guy and gave the union one third ownership. That is control

 

You have a strange view of conservatism

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2916931/posts

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

 

Fine a flat tax...but that means EVERYONE PAYS! Not just 50% of the population...EVERYONE PAYS!

 

no, that is made up nonsense.

 

It is fact. You won't believe the truth about Obama. You show why Obama got elected. The voters are not informed and don't care about anything that matters

 

An amusing claim from someone making such drastic political economy errors. Conservatism isn't a difficult beast. Within economics it tends to a simple support for the status quo (e.g. A social welfare function that weights losses greater than gains). In terms of more general politics, it isn't of any surprise that those who pin the conservative flag on their bonce tend to also exhibit authoritarianism traits

 

Obama supporters are blind sheep that believe his continued lies. They really need to stop drinking the koolaide, think for themselves, and realize we are worse off than four years ago.

 

More baseless nonsense.

 

How would you know? You know no economics and therefore have no means to evaluate political economic terms

 

no, it's made up nonsense. you have no idea what fascism means. obama didn't fire anybody. he doesn't have the power to fire anyone in a corporation.

 

Your's is about as stupid an idea as I've seen on this forum.

As has been discussed on this forum enough times it is the fact that wealthy elites have sheltered multiple TRILLIONS of dollars overseas and are not paying taxes while the middle class gets screwed under the tax system. This is what has caused the economy to slow down.


As for your hero Romney, on top of being king of flip flops, he is the nation's biggest welfare queen:



http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...tory-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829


what most voters don't know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America's top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.

 

Without economists, we'd be screwed - LOL!!! You must be one.

 

More liberal nonsense.

Anyone can invest outside the country. There is nothing wrong with that, and certainly is not the cause of our economic problems. Get a grip.

 

You're not making sense again. It stands to reason that, without knowledge of economics, you have no means to evaluate political economic terms. Bleedin obvious, but one does have to help the right wing

 

Since that communist Obama has never done anything to help the rich at the expense of the rest of us, I agree that he is truly a leftist.

 

Communist now? Another pathetic claim that doesn't even achieve comedy value

 

I'm just saying that Obama never has/will help the rich at the expense of the middle/lower classes. Ever

 

Okaydokes. One is just on one's guard given the constant vocab abuses. They've created a whole social group, for example, based on Obama being a Marxist. The ridiculousness gets to one!

 

Obama is a crony capitalist, which is probably the farthest thing I can imagine from being a Marxist.

 

Indeed. Shame really as Marxism would provide some nice insights into the sources of capitalist economic crisis

 

I am obviously an insane poster (who had a dream last night about actually being a satirist), but in all seriousness, me "possibly" not being the (exaggerated) stereotype of an overzealous rightwing extremist, does not imply that I think capitalism doesn't work. It's just that in my dream, I thought that capitalism does not equate to crony capitalism, which is exactly what modern corporatism is.

 

It certainly 'works' (as shown by its continued long term existence). Its just a shame that political economy is ignored despite the insights offered

An understanding of capitalism will involve an understanding of the firm. Capitalism naturally delivers market concentration and therefore 'cronyism'