American White Voters Solidarity Movement

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  1. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Just wondering, do you say the same of other Race Advocacy Groups like the NAACP, NBBP, La Raza, MECHA, Latino League, League of Women Voters etc. ?



    Or is it ONLY White Americans that are not ALLOWED to advocate their own EQUAL treatment?


    If so, WHY?
     
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    Because all those are are trying to get equality with white men themselves?
     
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    So me a white man (hell any man) can not get a job in some places in America because I refuse to speak spanish is not an issue? Because there is a quota I can not get a job but a less qualified person that is in a protected class can get it? Because I am white you think I can not be discriminated against?
     
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    not being able to speak a language can keep any one form some jobs in America or anywhere else so no that’s not inequality you can certainly be mistreated for being white though it’s just you belong to the most powerful combination gender and race all ready
     
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    Good answer for both. I see it this way. Every person in this country should have an advocate. At this point heterosexual white males have none. The one group that hold no protected status is the true minority in many cases. Si if it takes a group of all whites (Hetero, homo, male, female) to get things leveled then i am all for it. Make no mistake I am not for more for one I am for the same for all.
     
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    Show me where and how, by following my Principles, ANYONE, Black, White, Hispanic, Gay, Straight...


    Is treated anything less than with complete, total, absolute EQUALITY?
     
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    no you seem to have very nice principles jus think we might be better not off not supporting all the other race religion sexuality gender movements and we should just skip the white to and move e=on to solidarity if that includes no affirmative action but a drive fire equal opportunity for all equal treatment under the law for all more power to you
    that would appeal to me more than just trying to match other movements for specific gropes who were only just trying to get equality for themselves the white centered theme evne if its jsut in the name seems more vulnerable to corruption
     
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    lol, the poor white people who are discriminated against - hilarious
    u guys need a reality check
     
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    It is not quite like that. You see any movement that involves white males and does not include minorities in the US is considered racist. That in and of itself is a double standard and bigotry toward whites. So in this case - just like gay marriage and any movement involving a named minority - if you do not support it you are a bigot. You desire not to see this is strictly based on race and your comment "the poor white people" shows it.
     
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    Alright, Hotshot....check out this youtube broadcast made by YOUR president. He's petitioning African-Americans EXCLUSIVELY, based solely on skin color. He says, "...we need to decide what kinda country we wanna be." He's excluding the white Americans, and in that, he proves the principles of this Movement. This is not some nebulous elucidation; it's FACT, it's REAL, and it's happening NOW, in this country. So don't tell us there's equal rights anywhere near your government; white, working-class Americans are excluded from the majority of their socialist programs simply because we are expected to FUND them, not participate in them. Watch and raise your awareness to what is really happening in America today.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU

    Yeah, as a White American, I can really get behind something like this petition for votes.
     
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    Alright, Hotshot....check out this youtube broadcast made by YOUR president. He's petitioning African-Americans EXCLUSIVELY, based solely on skin color. He says, "...we need to decide what kinda country we wanna be." He's excluding the white Americans, and in that, he proves the principles of this Movement. This is not some nebulous elucidation; it's FACT, it's REAL, and it's happening NOW, in this country. So don't tell us there's equal rights anywhere near your government; white, working-class Americans are excluded from the majority of their socialist programs simply because we are expected to FUND them, not participate in them. Watch and raise your awareness to what is really happening in America today.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjoHA5ocwU

    Yeah, as a White American, I can really get behind something like this petition for votes.
     
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    I don't know how a single WHITE person could vote for this guy. The script has been written by Cloward/Piven for him to destroy America so that we'll all be denpendent on government. People that vote for this anti/un American in 2012 are either brain dead or they've been living in a comotose state for these past 3+ years. I fear for my children and grandchildren that there are enough morons left in this country that would actually vote this guy in again. Look at what people obot is going after now for their votes.....the Hollywood types, the illegals and recent clueless immigrants, the felons, the gang bangers, the poor, the govt dependents, single women who need govt dependence and those who he promises to give them what they want as portrayed by Julia in the video. Sad indeed.
     
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    How about any American! People fought for civil rights no so long ago and they had politicians talking only to whites. So it is hypocrisy for a black person to vote for him.
     
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    You're on the right track here.


    The American White Voters Solidarity Movement was conceived from moment one to be a group which advocates Racial Blindness and Tolerance for ALL Americans.


    It is, at its CORE, an attempt to refocus the American Civil Rights Movement on Martin Luther King's Dream of racial equality and inclusion.


    I would be surprised, greatly disappointed, and shocked if our membership ended up being completely White.


    Yes, the membership is currently more White Americans than their percentage in the population, but it is NOT exclusive nor is it Homogeneous.


    You see, a few exceptional people, actually read and took seriously the PRINCIPLES in the Orignal Post and sent PMs requesting membership... then we posted on a few more forums / blogs, and a few more exceptionally open minded and courageous people asked...


    The Leftie idiots on most of these forums were so busy shouting "You're a Racist!" or "Sounds Like the KKK!", they never stopped to consider the how the Silent Majority would respond to this Thread.


    It was NEVER my aim to convince the Pro-Affirmative Action and Racial Preferences Crowd of the error of thier ways, they are corrupted beyond any redemption.


    The goal was to simply put a BEACON out there to attract open minded, thoughtful, and racially tolerant people together and let them contact US.


    The American White Voters Solidarity Movement is already launched and growing exponentially.


    These AWVSM Threads spread out on 33 different forums, have already served their purpose, the initial outreach to begin the organizing of people and resources.


    We already have far more effective means of communicating to most and with much larger numbers now, completely different mechanisms for outreach.


    Whether the Lefties like it or not, the American White Voters Solidarity Movement is rolling.





    P.S. the Post after Post where the Leftie Racists showed their true colors and made themselves look like complete FOOLS really was quite amusing, as a kind of side benefit.


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    I know of plenty of White Seniors who will be voting for Obama in 2012.


    Well, most of them have been DEAD for a least a year, but I think President Obama and the Democrats will get a majority of the Zombie Vote.


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    Yes, the word "racist" is a label that was crafted to pin false guilt on the backs of innocents based on skin color.
    It is a word that expects a vain rebuttal. It is a word that is equal in every way to the N word. While most whites resist the use of the N word, others use the R word in increasing numbers to demonize anyone with fair skin and is a futal attempt to demonize all white skinned people. They feel this is a way to improve their potential for gain in all areas of society however immoral. Whites should declare the R word as unacceptable and should demean those who use it in public wherever they find its use. Neither the R word nor N word is to be tolerated any longer.


     
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    Q: Who gains power from seperatism, multiculturalism, nationalism, socialism, revolutions, etc, and racial orientated movements like this one, and who is loosing freedom?
    A: It's the system/rulers/elites/establishment, America is becoming the next Babylon or Roman empire, and all people are loosing the same thing, freedom )or will face the same thing, tyranny/war) (in Europe they have even setup fake freedom parties, and in the USA a fake TP)

    This part of history is once again about rulers that want to dominate over the people, mono or multicultural, it doesn't matter, Germany was monocultural/ethnic and became an empire as well (because ideology can be mirrored, this is what they did post WWII up till today, and told the people that such a period never must happen again, it's happening again)
    If you want freedom and independency and you think 'your' president will help you to accomplish that again, than history shows you the opposite. The rulers/the establishment are not sitting there to free the people, they are working very hard to take away your freedom and dominate over you, they are doing the same thing for thousands of years (the kings and emperors in former times), in this time they use, over the last hundred years' their political revolutionary branch called politics and elections, they have started a mind-war, politics is war agains the minds of the people, the people are falling into the same trap (as the German people), are buying into the very slick words and terms of Obama, Paul and Romney (they are the same, puppets/lackeys)
    If you understand history, you know that politics/elections is a trap (because they take the power of the people and destroy the people in their next war) They are succeeding very well (they need a higher turnout on 6 nov than last elections, gain power, and than they can move to their next step, that must be an economic end or collapse (than they can use their old strategy 'order out of chaos' (totalitarianism is their order, freedom is the people's order), they are going to do it when they have more power, because they have worked for over a century to reach this point in time) They will not stop until you stop them (political 'war', a mind war, if you show them the power of your mind you will have real freedom again one day, can even be soon, if the people combine their minds/thoughts, the internet can be like Pandora's box, guess why they have created a movie like 'Avatar', because they even help you, but they know people can't see their ideology, some do...)
     
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    Oh just what the country needs. Another victim group.

    You do realize all that will come out of such a movement is more interest based legislation that will do nothing, but add another line to forms you have to fill out to wipe your ass these days.
     
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    Just because you happen to be one of the lucky people who have not felt the sting of Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination, that does not mean that there are not tens of millions of others who have.


    Unless you've experienced it, you probably don't know how destrucutive it can be.


    I am not asking any kind of special treatment or benefits for anyone, if fact, I am asking to get rid of such for anyone.


    If you truely believe that there is not a large number of White Americans who have felt the sting of Government Institutionalized Racial Discrimination, then what are you worried about, this movement will not catch hold.


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    To paraphrase your sig line; 'The RACIST is as surely a Traitor to his country and to humanity (note that 'humanity' isn't exclusively white), as is the most brutal wrongdoer'.
     
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    Uh huh; so the lynchings and slavery, segregation and beatings never happened. And you don't owe blacks a thing? How about an apology for being ignorant dickheads?
    Boy but this thread really has lured the bigoted slime out from under their rocks. This is the kind of scum posts like yours represents and appears to encourage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96elyZaxq8&feature=related
     
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    Assumption.

    What I am in fact saying is regardless of your stated goal there is no way to legislate your grievances without specifically addressing race based hiring. The promoters of affirmative action framed their arguments much the same way you did. That it was not about getting special treatment, but rather about assuring fair treatment for everyone. By the time the legislatures, and the interest groups, and the lawyers got done with it though you have the system that you despise.

    Now you're going to try to untie the knot by throwing another loop in it. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are suggesting that race can not, and should not be a factor in hiring, and you want to codify that into law. So future generations will look at that and say. "Ok race according to the awesome law passed by the AWVSM can not be a factor in hiring. How do we ensure race is not a factor in hiring? How do we investigate people who are alleged to ire based on race? How do we prosecute people who are found to have hired based on race.". Departments will be formed. Legal forms will be created so employers can cover their asses during the hiring process, and the whole thing will start over again. Maybe it won't be a quota system. Maybe it will be an agency that goes about interviewing employees and applicants looking for evidence of race based hiring.

    The system will take your dream and they will turn it into the next Frankenstein's monster.
     
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    Did it ever occur to you that the most bigoted people nowadays are the liberals and many of these blacks that continue to base their entire political philosophy around having a reverse discrimination/race-baiting game plan to keep the racial fires burning 24/7? No, I didn't think so. And you want we WHITES to apologize to this modern scum that have and are destroying our society via drug crime, murders, sucking our govt coffers dry with entitlement bennies and bringing our public schools down to the lowest levels of educational achievement since stats were taken? You want we WHITES to apologize to these leeches on the same level as obama was apologizing to the world for his unseemly view of America? Get a clue bub, you and your lib enablers of a defeatist/depressive/socialist/denegrading society are the problem. Do the terms 'striving for excellence' or 'striving to be the best I can be' ever register on yours or any liberal's mind? Oh, almost didn't notice that you are that foreigner who is perfectly content kneeling down to the Sharia Law that is sweeping your dying population, so excuse me for wasting my time on a dead brain.
     
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    I don't personally think that your Paint-Job, i.e. how much of the pigment melatonin is in your skin cells, determined by genetics, makes a bit of difference when it comes to the important distinctions between individuals.


    Attributes such as intelligence, dexterity, memory, strength, endurance, immunity, are all set by other factors that have little to nothing to do with what we commonly call "Race". Those elements often are heavily influenced by genetics, but not the subset of genes we use to queue on visual aspects of physiology we call "Race".


    The Paint-Job does not tell whether you've got a badly tuned, worn out four banger, or a supercharged, tuned exhaust hemi.


    Unfortunately, American Racial Culture has begun to differentiate itself into distinct cultural enclaves that put groups we commonly identify, or they chose to self-identify, by skin tone, at a distinct disadvantage.


    We see all the time how in "Black" schools, those individuals who show a strong work ethic, are scholastic, interested in business, math and science and apply themselves to their studies, are designated by the majority of the "Cool" student population as "Acting White" and are isolated and condemned for their actions. The KKK could not have invented a more destructive idealeology.


    Some portion of this simply comes from a background of poverty and parental ignorance. But not all, and the segment which comes from a racial cultural “Pride” in self-destructive behaviors is unfortunately growing and often Liberals encourage it. It makes me sick.


    All races and cultures have had this underclass pride in self-limiting behavior, take for instance the Irish and Scottish pride in being heavy drinkers of distilled alcohol.


    To the extent to which this LEARNED cultural behavior impacts today’s race debate and racial achievement varies greatly by region and race, but it is always there as an undercurrent, and is often used to justify a belief in one race or another’s inherent genetic superiority or inferiority.


    I completely reject the concept that the visual cues and the genetic sequences which cause them, which we commonly use to denote a “Race” have any significant part in determining the attributes for modern life success. However, learned cultural behaviors do have a significant and growing impact.


    Maybe we should focus, as an American Society, in identifying and share widely and EQUALLY among all “Races” those behaviors which lead to success? Just a silly little notion I had…



    Ohh... But wait, I made Thread which had the word "White" in a positive context in the title, which means anything I might say is tainted with vile RACISM!


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    Excellent, not a single item in my post addressed. Getting a little defensive and insulting there 'bub'. What is it they say-'insult is the last resort of the feeble-minded'? I'll just leave it there. Bub.
     

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