American White Voters Solidarity Movement

In your smarmy way you asked 'so you don't owe blacks a thing? and How about an apology for being dickheads? I'd say my response answered your questions to a tee with an emphasis on giving you details of how blacks have ruined our society, and to where its the blacks who need to apologize for being such destructive dickheads. Now lets see if you can stick to the topic at hand.

 

In response to the OP,

I am not particularly fond of affirmative action but consider it necessary given the other policies currently pursued by the U.S. government. Addressing the aftermath of slavery, segregation, and so forth is both an economic and symbolic challenge. White Americans remain more privileged than many racial minority groups, generally speaking, and I feel this persists because there is insufficient social mobility. It will not change very quickly unless African Americans in general, to use one example, begin to work a lot harder and more competently compete than do European Americans... which is not going to happen because race is superficial. Even if all racial discrimination were to vanish overnight, we would still see a gap in resources and opportunity betwixt racial groups for many decades if not for over a century due to the aforementioned privileges (of influence over capital), which seem to oft get transferred from one generation to the next in one form or another.

To expedite the process of making affirmative action unnecessary, access to opportunities in society need to be more equitable and pathways for folks leading out of the lower and working classes more readily available than they are today. Forming a band of solidaristic white people to lobby for reforms to affirmative action will not achieve that and, because non-Hispanic whites remain the dominant racial group in the United States in terms of privilege, it will probably look very bad to a lot of people because whites in general still have the most to lose from true racial equality being achieved. And as that goal comes nearer many whites are likely to consider steps of progress to instead be unwelcome attacks on their traditional ways of life. So would the sort of group being described aim for true inter-racial equality? Or would it strive for a perception of equality compatible with whites in general retaining current privileges at the expense of other groups that would be kept relatively disadvantaged in perpetuity?

There are ways to more effectively address racial issues than how it is being done right now, I reckon. I don't mean to seem dismissive, but would rather be associated with a solidarity group representing all people, throw out the current welfare regime, replace it with social democracy, and thoroughly reevaluate how children get taught about race in school and also - perhaps even more importantly - via the mass media. Maybe I’m way off mark here. Still, it seems to me like it is high time for some new policies.

 

So you want to discount slavery, segregation, lynchings, beatings and decades of oppression? If you want to talk about 'destructive' perhaps you can explain how those actions by white America were in any way constructive or conducive to black emancipation. Then again you have a fine history of screwing-over those you find distasteful, or the wrong colour. Take Native Americans as an example. I'll wait...

 

So is Africa better? Killings, rape, beatings, slavery, kidnapping.... are the norm. Yeah they happen today. Gangs of thugs terrorize the civilized black populations. Piracy attacks international shipping, VD is spread all over...

Would they be better off in Africa? You do know we had black slave owners don't you?

It makes no difference they are turning America (the thugs in some parts) into Africa. In the US we have car jacking, murder, rape, bondage to steal welfare from the old, beatings of whites because of their skin color...

The sad thing is the blame by many goes on the entire black community. This is wrong.

So you blame the community for what a few do and the response is that the community defends the aggressors and fights you in a sense of solidarity.

Point is you have no clue.

 

The comments in this thread highlight the absolute worst of mankind. Truly disgusting moronic thinking. lol I feel sorry for you people.

 

were making progress, this was the belief not that long ago by many

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
-Judge Leon M. Bazile (January 6, 1959)

 

Uh huh; do you have any idea how many non-black violent thugs and gangs there are in America-tell us how much they're contributing to America. How is it that they don't get the air-time that blacks do? Here's a few for your perusal. I note the preponderance of knuckle-dragging bikers among them...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs_in_the_United_States

 

Obama does not care about the white vote, he figures he will always get a percentage of them anyway, to him he and the Democrats are better off with the minorities, they are the faster growing group, easier to manipulate, and will always jump on the Governments side.
If they are to succeed in taking this country toward a more European economy and ''just'' social class the minorities are the ticket.

Just listen to the brow beating on MSNBC, ALL CLASS WARFARE ALL DAY ALL THE TIME...They claim they are about the middle class,,bull, they are about lowering the middle, so others can catch up. They claim they will take from the rich, meanwhile they know the rich cant possibly give them what they need, so why attack them?
So the middle will think they are on their side,,,their not.

 

You don't live here and you really do not have a clue. Easy for a fairy in the UK to trash talk the US when you can not comprehend it.

COme on over and take a tour! Hell I will show you around . First we will go into town and I will leave you by yourself for a while. If you can fight, shoot, suck **** or take it in the six you should do fine.

After that we can go to Philly and Pittsburgh (if you make it) and we will do the same.

Following that we head to LA and Chicago for you to finish your tour.

Also consider that anything whites do in the US that is not all inclusive is considered racist by others and foreigners like you. There is a double standard here and you know it.

 

You don't live here and you really do not have a clue. Easy for a fairy in the UK to trash talk the US when you can not comprehend it.

COme on over and take a tour! Hell I will show you around . First we will go into town and I will leave you by yourself for a while. If you can fight, shoot, suck **** or take it in the six you should do fine.

After that we can go to Philly and Pittsburgh (if you make it) and we will do the same.

Following that we head to LA and Chicago for you to finish your tour.

Also consider that anything whites do in the US that is not all inclusive is considered racist by others and foreigners like you. There is a double standard here and you know it.

 

I bet this guy's a member of your movement:


Man Linked To Virginia Republican Party Arrested For Throwing Out Voter Forms

http://www.ibtimes.com/man-linked-virginia-republican-party-arrested-throwing-out-voter-forms-849339


"A man connected to the Republican Party was arrested after being accused of throwing out completed voter registration forms in Virginia ... The sheriff’s office identified Colin Small as the man who threw out the forms. Small was later arrested and charged with one count of obstruction of justice, four counts of destroying voter forms and eight counts of failing to disclose voter registration forms. "



How many more crooks like him will not get caught.

 

How many illegals will be voting because there is no ID? You progressives act one way but you demean everyone with your arrogance.

The only people that will be protected by striking down the ID laws are the criminals. Blacks, hispanics, asians and whites (citizens) will have their votes watered down by illegals and those not entitled to vote.

 

Hard to disagree with anything you are saying here. You're so right about the brainwashing attempt of those libs over at MSNBC. I often turn into that channel just to see what bias attacks they spew on any given day. Its hard to believe that anyone could take any of those political hosts seriously. What they are are a bunch of angry old white men--the very terms they call the Tea Party faithfuls. I mean, just look at the anger spewing from the mouths of those angry white men like Lawerence O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, the former host Keith Olberman, and Ed (fathead) Shultz. They do have an angry black man with al sharpless and an equally angry white lesbo licker in rachel (madcow) madoff.

 

A good example is Rev Al wanted to know why the panel at the Hofstra debate did not have many black folk in it.

Meanwhile Lawrence Odonnell said due to them picking just undecideds they were eliminating Obama voters, because they vote 93% Obama,,they are already decided.....They should compare notes,,,Odonnell said that idea should be banned..[they love banning stuff].

Meanwhile had I said most or all blacks will vote Obama,,they would have shot me...LOL

Also, if he already knows how they will vote, why be at the debate at all? Just say'n....

 

This solidarity thing will never work because being white is not all that important especially compared to the differences among white people


look at the anger being spewed on hear

 

I would agree, besides there are plenty [probably more] poor white people that can be manipulated the same way. Entitlements appeal to anybody that's struggling...., and the wealthy will always get the blame.

 

I don't need to live in America to recognise overt racism when I see it. I also note that you totally avoided commenting on my link to the long list of violent thug whites who have been wreaking havoc in America for decades. Your dearly beloved Hell's Angels, for example, are involved in murder, drug dealing, prostitution...you name it. And that's just one bunch of redneck throwbacks.

 

Hells angels are all but gone. Like I said you don't live here so you are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing clueless. I don't hold it against you and I also don't jump into threads about your country and its issues.

 

You should. In case you hadn't noticed this is an international forum, with mods from Wales, Australia and the USA.

 

I may be able to add a word here or there but I do not know what it is to be a brit and therefore can not argue with one about certain issues as I am not there and can not actually feel the situation.

Just as you call this racism. Well here it is much more than that. It is about standards and the fact is they are not the same. Consider that this is not about any race other than white.

Get out the Vote? All over the place. Who the hell says get out the vote? Liberals. It is not and never was intended for whites.

Trust me you have to live in certain areas to understand the mood.

 

I agree with you.

No, the Democrats no longer represent Working Whites. Obama and the Black Liberation Theologist wing of the Democratic Party have openly abandoned the Working White American vote.


Obama has openly stated that he believes the Democratic Party is better off as a “People of Color” party, and that he believes that the growing demographics of “Designated Minorities” as a percentage of the population make that a no-brainer political winning ticket.


He is WRONG. White Americans represent 64% of the population. Many non-White Americans, such as my wife, and my two adult daughters, are married to Whites, and their lives are impacted greatly by their husbands being denied opportunities by the Racial Preferences machinery.


Yes, the Demographic is changing, in 2028, Whites will be less than 50% of the Electorate, just barely…


But in 2012, 2016, 2020, and 2024, Working Whites will still be the single largest voting bloc in the country.


But before you start saying after that the BLT Democrats win, you have to factor that Whites will continue to be a larger voting bloc than Blacks and Latinos Combined, for at least the next fifty years.


Blacks are projected to be 16% of the population in 2028. Latinos will likely be 26% in 2028. Combined that is 42%, while whites will only be a paltry 49%...


The Democratic Party, with its emphasis on Government Institutionalized Racial Preferences, has been working against the interests of Low-Mid Income Whites for forty years. It has always been a puzzle to me why so many Low-Mid Income Whites kept supporting the Democrats, even as they took actions and passed policies which cut off their futures.


So, in short, Working White Americans need a new home. Which will it be? The Republicans? The TEA Party? The Libertarians?


Where ever the Working White Vote ends up, it won’t be a Democratic Party which has shown itself to be directly opposed to their best interests and equal treatment.


Yes, there will always be a subset of the white population which will be sycophantic devotees of the Far-Left, but that percentage is canceled and exceeded by a growing number of affluent Blacks and Latinos which want nothing to do with socialism.


As long as Working Whites find the leadership to vote as a bloc in the same way that Blacks and Latinos currently do, they have it in their power to dominate American politics for the next 70 years at a minimum. Seventy years from now, natural mixing of the races will make Racial Preferences even more difficult to pandering profit from than they are right now.


There is no future for any politician who promotes racial preferences. Obama and the BLT wing of the Democratic Party have doomed themselves via their own Racism.


Look at the most recent polls and one thing that is clear, for Working White Americans in 2012, it will be Anyone-But-Obama.


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The election results were diappointing, but the movement is not over, it has only begun to fight.


The method and direction of the fight, from this point forward, given the Democrats willingness to use voter fraud to steal the 2012 election, will by necessity, be far more subtle....


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In a shift in Labour's approach, John Denham, the Communities Secretary, said that social class is sometimes more important than race in determining the progress someone makes in life. His attempt to “move on” from more than a decade of Labour thinking on racial equality and social policy comes after the British National Party made electoral breakthroughs in Labour heartlands last year. Some Labour MPs have said that should force the Government to do more to respond to the concerns of white working class voters. In a report on the Government’s approach to race, Mr Denham's department said that working-class children of different races have more in common with each other than with middle-class children of the same ethnic group. “Socio-economic status and poverty affect people's chances in life regardless of race or ethnic background,” the report said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/6989665/White-working-class-left-behind-by-Labour-ministers-admit.html

 

You see black/other minority power groups as wanting to tip the scales of justice in their favor, yet instead of creating an equality movement you created a white solidarity movement? It's true that black solidarity organizations place too much an emphasis on ending black oppression and not oppression in general, but you've fallen into the exact same trap.

 

Everything is great except name.
I think movement should be call American Non-minority Democratic movement. Some, so called white people, have darker skin but they are not recognized as privileged population by the government.
Or may be American Non-privileged voters democratic movement.