Obama = worst president in history?

are we discussing your opinion of the quality of single payer health care or whether or not single payer health care makes a country socialist or not?

And funny you should mention it. I live in a town in Mexico where Americans come every day for "medical tourism" trips to get fantastic health care procedures done at one fifth the cost of what it is in the USA.... but that's a whole other story.

Single payer would not make the US a socialist nation. period.

Obama is not a socialist. He's not a communist. He's not a muslim and he's not Kenyan. get the (*)(*)(*)(*) over it.

 

I never said a budget was passed by congress and signed by obama. never the less, there has been a budget all four years of his presidency. Or do you think we haven't spent any money the past 4 years?

 

a budget is not required to spend money, thats why obama has not passed one.

 

I never said obama was a socialist---some Russian newspaper said that.

I said that he is a marxist collectivist, and his actions and statements verify that.

 

yes it is. a budget is required to allocate resources to govn't spending. which is why there has been a budget all four years of his presidency.

 

define marxism and provide specific policy examples making him one.

 

"I want to redistribute the wealth" obama
"You didn't build that" obama
"there should be a limit on how much anyone can earn" obama
"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" marx
"we need social justice enforced by the government" obama
"we need a fair system of income" obama
you can draw whatever conclusions you wish, My conclusion is that obama is a marxist collectivist.

 

this from the guy that took up 4 or 5 pages arguing about a non existent federal budget.

 

that is neither the definition of marxism nor specific policy examples. why are you having such a hard time with this? dictionaries are free online. his policies are public record. you should have no problem providing the definition and policies.

but how can you draw a conclusion on terms to which you are ignorant of?

 

there has been a budget all four years of his presidency.

now, define marxism and provide specific policy examples making him one.

 

you said there wasn't a budget, i showed you obama's budget

what a joke, you're projecting your own situation

 

You hit upon the right words. While liberals try to avoid reality and the fiscal irresponsibility of their party by picking a particular definition of the simple word "budget." We will have to use the words United States Federal Budget rather than allow them to wimp away behind the word, "budget."

FY 2010 b.o. US federal budget proposal not passed in either House of Congress. NO US federal budget passed for the FY 2010.

FY 2011 b.o. US federal budget proposal not passed in either House of Congress. NO US federal budget passed for the FY 2011.

FY 2012 b.o. US federal budget proposal not passed in either House of Congress. NO US federal budget passed for the FY 2012.

FY 2013 b.o. US federal budget proposal not passed in either House of Congress. NO US federal budget passed for the FY 2013.

What Democrats choose to call the worst economic crisis in modern times, is when they also decide to make NO ATTEMPT to pass a US federal budget.

The Republican House passed a US federal budget proposal for FY 2012 and they again passed a US federal budget proposal for FY 2013.

The Democrat Senate never brought either to the floor for debate, changes, or a vote.

THESE irresponsible, stupid, liberal Congresspeople are not people to look to for economic wisdom or solutions.

 

what a joke your ignorant posts are, keep on hiding from the truth

just because the gop won't pass obama's budget, doesn't mean there isn't one

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

i don't think he can do it

 

If I was seriously stupid, what I'd do is post a link to a budget PROPOSAL that was presented to Congress and NOT passed by Congress and declare that it is a budget.

Check that, it is a budget,,,,,,,,,PROPOSAL. But it is NOT a US federal budget that has been passed by the House and the Senate and signed into LAW by the president.

Anyone that is so misinformed as to think that a rejected budget PROPOSAL is an, IN EFFECT, LEGALLY PASSED US FEDERAL BUDGET, just doesn't know crap and all his posts should be ignored for lack of any kind of knowledge.

That's what I'd do if I was seriously stupid. For instance, one can go the the WH site and look at obama's rejected budget PROPOSAL. Well not completely rejected, it was never brought to the Senate floor by Harry Reid, only the House of Representatives rejected it and passed a US federal budget PROPOSAL of their own. http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/pathtoprosperity2013.pdf, also only a PROPOSAL that never became the legal US federal budget. Harry Reid also never brought that House PROPOSAL to the Senate floor for a vote.

That's what I'd do. Others can make their own choices.

 

define marxist collectivist. you have never done so. It's just another way of saying N-I-G-G-E-R and it gets really old, after a while.

 

there of course has been a federal budget all four years of his presidency

 

collecting tax money and then spending it is not a budget. borrowing 46 cents of every dollar spent by the government is not a budget. trillion dollar deficits every year are not a budget.

Grow the (*)(*)(*)(*) up, there has not been a budget bill passed and signed into law in 4 years--------------the country has not had a budget during obama's entire reign.

When you continue to lie about this, it just makes you look like a hopeless fool who worships the kenyan messiah regardless of how badly he screws up the country.

 

Is that why you ignored all their arguments and choose to just generically kiss his butt instead? Explain how extrajudicially assassinating anyone he wants without a trial, providing evidence, or locking them up indefinatily, torturing them, even US citizens, is going to earn him a spot on Mt. Rushmore. If you want to actually step up and defend the guy, please read the thread first so I don't need to repeat myself.

But putting your hands on your ears while all the real reasons he is a lousy president are revealed, and saying I'm not listening over and over again, and then saying he's the best and nobody can say any different, is pretty childish.

 

anwar al-aulaqi was tried

 

IF, engaging in mindless silliness, and being absolutely wrong, gives you pleasure, GOOD for you.

 

you're the one that's silly

here's obama's budget: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

 

Nope, it does not forecast future spending and revenues, it merely allows current spending levels to continue so that government does not shut down. The budget process for the federal government is very specific and "budgets" only run for as long as they were inacted. Once that time passes there is no "budget", everything is just running on auto-pilot.

 

And he and Reid passed it when?

 

And it was passed when?

 

No wonder usama hussein ben barrack was reelected. What chance do facts and logic, and TRUTH, have against the great masses of the ignorant?