Lesbian woman demands double standard when she has sex with 15-year-old

Sorry, I shoulda realize some would skip reading the whole story before jumping in. From the link in the OP:

See? If they had practiced discretion, nobody would've even known about their relationship.

Why the need to wave the rainbow flag? It does nothing but stir things up.

 

You may not view it that way, but the law sure does. Most cases of having consensual sex with a minor are purged from the offender's record if they don't re-commit for 10 yrs. It's a serious offense, but the punishment is nearly always probation.

 

if this was an 18 year old boy and a 14 year old girl, no one outside the immediate the families and associates would have ever heard about it

 

So the American media never reports cases of male paedophiles targeting under-age girls?

 

A high school student in a consensual relationship with another high school student is not a pedophile.

 

do a google search using the term 18 year old has sex with 14 year old see what pops up. I will wager you find more stories regarding this case than all others combined in the last 5 years

kind of like the Zimmerman thing, blacks kill 30 or 40 black teenagers daily and never hear a peep from the media

 

The age of consent in Florida is 18. Have you never heard of sexual consent laws?

 

So what? Many things are technically crimes but are not dealt with as such due to extenuating circumstances. It's illegal for me to shoot you in the face. But if you just broke into my home, and are armed and prepared to use your weapon, the police will let me get away with it.

 

There are no extenuating circumstances. The 18-year-old broke the law by having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old. I don't give a fig if they are lesbians. It's lesbian paedophilia.

 

If you don't consider a pre-existing relationship amongst high school peers as extenuating circumstances, you need to reevaluate the meaning of extenuating circumstances.

 

Felony or crime it is still about an adult having sex with a minor, do you understand or not?

 

It is not. Pedophilia is sexual orientation to prepubescent children. 15-year-old is definitely not prepubescent. 15-year-old is usually nearly or fully physically developed. Also pedophilia is not an act, it is not a relationship with someone, it's the characteristics of individual (saying who is he attracted to, sexually aroused by, falls in love with).

The facts that the girl is nearly adult and the relationship was consensual (as far as know), are definitely extenuating circumstances. The fact that they are lesbian is not. Anyway the law that enables such harsh punishment and that demands public registration as sexual offender is a horrible law. I would call it crime committed by the law, the legislators who refuse to do something with the law are responsible for the harm done by the law. The prosecution does more harm than the criminal act, it's absurd. I think in the similar situation here she would get one year conditional sentence or something like that.

 

"she would face two years of house arrest and one year of probation" Not so harsh.

 

What is harsh is how the parents of the 18 year old made this a lesbian thing and came out attacking the 14 year old they are irresponsible parents and individuals and I think the parents of the 14 year old should sue them for civil damages.

 

Yeah, teaching her daughter that its perfectly "healthy" and "natural" for an 18 yr old woman to explore sexuality with a 14yr old girl shows questionable judgement. The daughter and the mother have only themselves to blame.

 

I am not going to judge that because I don't know the details here. There are other examples showing, that the law is bad, it's not only very harsh for the offender but it also in several cases hurt those who it should protect. If the case happened here, I doubt it would be such a big topic and it would probably ended much better for both girls. Which is my point here.

 

Are saying the law is bad because it protects minor while too harsh on adult offenders?
So what do you want the law to be leave them alone does this mean any adults regardless of sexual orientation as long as their is consent from minors that they want to have sex?

 

I don't say the law is bad, because it protects minor. That's what the law is supposed to do. We can't decide individually about everyone, if he is mature enough, so we need to set the line somewhere. But we should consider what the protective effect of the law and how it depends on the harshness of the penalty for breaking the law. Also we need to consider the negative consequences of the harsh punishments. The penalty should fit the harm or the risk of harm of the crime.

There are different claims about this case, but I'll consider the case of two young people in love, one adult and one minor. I don't see how you help the minor if you destroy the life of the person the minor is in love. I think you hurt the minor by that. Also I think even much milder penalty for breaking the law would have nearly the same protective effect. I think there shouldn't be public registration as the sex offender, the maximum possible penalty should be much lower and also there should be low or none minimal penalty for such cases. (I don't know if there is any minimum penalty in Florida.)

 

I agree the penalty should fit the crime or offence the problem is the offenders including her parents made this a public battle between same sex and none same sex.

The offence is about an adult having sex with a minor love has nothing to do with handing out the sentence. This why the 14 year old parents got involve and this is why we have laws to protect minors because they are vulnerable to "puppy" love.

The parents of the 18 year old should have known better instead they encourage the sexual relationship and blame the parents of the 14 year old for putting a stop to it.

 

The fact that a law is intent on protecting minors is a wonderful thing. But I also think it's fair to consider that it's possible the law also can cause harm to the minor. Susceptability to "puppy love" or not, not all minors are identical, and not all situations are the same. Gay or straight, it doesn't matter, but it is highly likely that in many of these cases the only thing that we get from prosecution the offender is A: emotionally devastating the minor, B: Emotionally and financially devastating the offender, C: creating a huge tax buron for the state required to prosecute, imprison, and provide future support for the offender. The law can have the best intentions in the world, but those are heavy prices to pay, so it's worth taking a look at which cases are actually worth prosecuting. Where the minor is truly being manipulated and taken advantage of, absolutely, prosecute. But in some cases, a simple warning will do. The purpose of the law isn't just to punish a crime, but rather to prevent harm, protect the minor, and reduce the tax buron on the state. Prosecuting simply for the sake of prosecuting, even if it causes more harm to the minor, more expense to the state, and even if there are better options to deal with the situation is a self-defeating law.

Now, I don't know the full set of circumstances in this case. If the 18 year old's parents were encouraging sexual relationships, and the 18 year old was warned and a repeat offender, I can understand and support the 14 year old's parents stepping in. But saying that the law is being too harsh and being applied unequally is not the same as "encouraging sexual relationships". Whether or not the law actually is being applied unequally, I don't know either, but I do know it is common for cases to not be prosecuted in california depending on the circumstances, and that alternatives are often chosen that make more sense for the given scenario (like issuing a warning before prosecution, or encouraging the couple to marry which makes it legal).

So long story short, she may be very well deserving of prosecution, I can't say one way or the other without details of circumstances. But I also can't say whether or not circumstances demonstrate that prosecution causes more harm for the minor than good, not to mention harm to state coffers for what may essentially be an isolated event with no further risk or burdon for society that warrants the harm prosecutions may cause. This is why district attorneys are empowered with the prerogative to prosecute, pardon, or plee bargen for lower crimes.

 

I'm glad to see you wrote that part. How do you feel (opinion) about the family of Kate (18 yo) who lied about the ages (said it was 17 and 15, vs 18 and 14) and were caught in the lie when the arrest affidavit was released as well as trying to say it's a homophobic issue vs accepting that the law was broken?

It seems that Kate's family is playing "the gay card" hoping the recent wave of all things gay might help distract people from the actual crime.

 

With a mother teaching her 18 yr old daughter that it is perfectly "normal" and "healthy" to have the 14 yr old girl finger (*)(*)(*)(*) her to explore her sexuality, its probably worth prosecuting.

 

I can understand a parent wanting to protect their children. But, they have now spun lies trying to do that. Also, getting the gay militants involved does not help because it's not a gay issue.

Tragically, because this has escalated thanks to the 18 yo's parents and the gay militants, the victim has had her life destroyed.

She is now once again a victim. It is now known that she was so confused about it when she was 14 ( a very tender age in development) that she ran away but 18 yo Kate picked her up and rewarded her with some more diddling and a vibrator use. It's also known about the bathroom escapades.

The victim has not been considered once during all of this and the gay militants could give a whip nor do Kate's parents.

 

Id say an 18 yr old having sex with a 14 yr old is taking advantage of the 14 yr old. And absent physical force, it is usually done through manipulation.