whats wrong with gay married couples wanting their adopted kids to be gay

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Doc Dred, Oct 7, 2013.

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should gay parents be encouraged to teach their adopted to be gay

Poll closed Oct 29, 2013.
  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. depends on the child

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  4. yes they are the parents and if it works for them , why not?

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  5. no, being gay is wrong, even though it is legal

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  6. children should not be taught sex at all

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  7. the whole sex thing is over rated

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  8. gay parents make better parents so we need more gays

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  9. adopted kids should follow in their parents footsteps

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  10. bisexulaity is the way to teach your kids

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    When it comes to innate characteristics of a child- whether that is sexual orientation or being left handed or right handed- no, parents should not be attempting to change what is innate rather than learned. Children very early on tend to start demonstrating their gender preference, though it isn't sexual to them. As a parent it was obvious to me, and it wasn't necessary for me to take action, nor would it have been good for me to try to influence my child as to sexual orientation- or whether to use the right hand or the left hand.

    When it comes to teaching children how to be good human beings- absolutely parents should be giving their children directions.
     
  2. Doc Dred

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    maybe if you were brought up with gay parents you would not be so repulsed by the very thing that others are attracted to.

    you have been conditioned to reject the male body to the point of having a psychotic aversion to it.

    a simple tv show like dancing with stars and a whole gambit of emotions of not enjoying the muscled men come into play for you on the couch, which by the way are not all the men that are on the show, just the ones you have an aversion to.

    obviously you thought this one out...ever wonder why...

    i think you have issues with your own homosexuality...this needs to be explored in order to free you from venting online ,and being obvious to those of us that understand you.
     
  3. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    Wow- way to move the goal post. We were talking about sexual orientation, not child rearing in general.

    Get with the times.
     
  4. Stagnant

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    The right? Sure. But it's pointless because there's nothing they can do to make that a thing. And educating straight children on gay sex is somewhat pointless.

    It most likely makes you bisexual - look up the Kinsey scale, it might be enlightening. Sexuality is not binary; it's a gradient. If you've felt a romantic or sexual attraction to both men and women, then you're clearly not definitively heterosexual, although you may tend strongly towards that - much in the same way that I am primarily heterosexual, but occasionally just feel like sucking (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    no it was i that created this poll and i am explaining it more clearly is all...it's hard to fit a thread into a title...

    you can't change a person's sexual orientation...it's moot...

    but you can widen the gulf between being oppressed homosexuals and free people...

    and if gay parents want to alter their child's sex with hormones and operations....if the hermaphrodite parents can then they can...
     
  6. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You forgot one option.

    Gay parents are no more likely to be good parents or bad parents than straight parents.

    I would have picked that if you had it.
     
  7. Doc Dred

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    well it's totally moot and not on subject anyway...good point though...but maybe in these modern times it would be cooler for the kid to have some real effeminate guys for parents...especially in the midwest where it would stand out at PTA meetings and dad day at the school and stuff...

    and the kid if indoctrinated properly in gay sex ...might even impress his teachers during some sort of show and tell event...or science project...
    it's a brave new world and the opportunities are open ...
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kids don't learn sexual orientation from thier parents.

    They can be exposed to parents with all manner of psycho sexual disorders, or exposed to parents that have a healthy sexual relationship...or somwhere in between. This can turn them into everything from pedophiles or rapists, to sexually healthy individuals. But pedophiles and rapists are no more likely to be gay than straight rapists and pedophiles. Sexually healthy individuals are no more likely to be gay than straight.
     
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    you have missed the ideology of the entire thread and decided to post fears of yours and other right wing naysers...

    gay people adopt children ...get over it...it was unheard of in the 40's or even the 60's...
    all that has changed...prime television has gay and lesbian stars....women , real uber dykes, hardcore militant dyke man haters with lil boys for kids...women that want to cut off a man's penis and wear it like a trophy can have their children altered and put on hormone treatment....it's fair...the parents pay for the food the kid eats...why not mould them into what they need for their own psychological needs..

    it's like a science project for the american people to learn by...it's wonderful..
     
  10. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, parents cannot make thier kids gay. There is a possibility environmental factors that influence the formation of sexual orientation but they're not conscious factors. They are formed during early childhood development, and more physiological in nature, as opposed to any trauma or molestation.
     
  11. sec

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    correct

    there is a possibility that one is born homo or heterosexual
    there is a possibility that it is environmental be it that homosexuality was or "girly men"/"manly women" were exposed to the children and that infleunced them to choose the homosexual lifestyle
    there is a possibility that the child behaved like the opposite sex in order to grab attention

    there are many theories and none can be proven as there is no test to prove any of the theories.

    Until that time, those who subscribe to the "born homosexual" and those who subscribe to the "chose the homosexual lifestyle" theories are both equally wrong and equally right.
     
  12. SFJEFF

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    Its a possibility that fairies chose which children are going to be heterosexual and which children are going to be homosexuals.

    There is no test that disproves that theory, so it is as equal as any other theory.

    And what the fairies decide is immutable.
     
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    I'm not sure the derogatory name calling is helping your argument.

    We call them "gays".

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    Gays..... call me disgusting.
     
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    You couldn't possibly be more wrong.

    Fetal development studies suggest how such a gene might influence such a complex behavior. The development of a fetus into a male is accomplished by the development of the testes, which produce testosterone, which has a wide range of physiological effects. During the perinatal period, a week before and after birth, testosterone has an irreversible organizing effect on the body and brain of males. If the hormone is absent during this period, the individual's anatomy and behavior never can become wholly male. A testosterone surge during puberty activates male sexual development and behavior
     
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    So did former Vice-President Dick Cheney and his wife Lynne "teach" their daughter Mary to be gay???
     
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    And why are the rest of their kids heterosexual?
     
  17. Goldwater

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    Knowledge will set you free from your cage of intolerance.

    There are great community colleges all over the US that have pretty good science courses. You could also take a genetics class, and a biology class. After that it would be hard for you to embrace the less than sophomoric notions you've expressed so far.
     
  18. SFJEFF

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    How odd.
     
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    all kidding aside, if English is not your primary language you may wish to look up the definition of the 2 words from your post which I enlarged.

    As I stated, it's all theories and beliefs, nothing more. There is no medical proof that I was born hetero vs that I chose it due to my environment and upbringing

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    at this point where there is no medical test, that theory is as sound as the one of being born homosexual
     
  20. SFJEFF

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    My new theory is that being around Conservatives too long drives men to homosexuality.

    Mind you this is just a theory, but I am hoping to get lots of funding to check on it- I am going to call it the Boehner for President Foundation.
     
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    All that parents can do, is to teach their kids 'their' values about human sexuality, even their desires for them as their child. But no parent can teach/train their child to possess a heterosexual or homosexual orientation.

    Of course, the gay parent would more than likely accept a gay kid more readily than straight parents would... but otherwise I don't see a problem here.

    Again, a gay kid can act straight, just as they are raised/trained to act. But if there was a parent who could (really) teach their kid 'select' some proper sexual orientation, they'd probably be very wealthy in no time. (They'd be amazing people, indeed.)
     
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    now if you said that we drove liberals to drink then I'd believe you :eekeyes:
     
  23. SFJEFF

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    Naw- we walk under our own power to the brewpub to drink.
     
  24. Stagnant

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    I see what you did there. I also almost fell out of my chair. :lol: Anyone else remember "Mock The Dummy"'s take on Boehner's name?
     
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    this is my original post, that you decided to edit to suit some sort of agenda...

    if you just post that i said this
    without the rest of the post...it simply is unfair and i cry foul...
     

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