~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

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  1. Dusty1000

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    As I have already said, the non-aligned movement, which represents the majority of countries in the world, vigorously supports Iran's right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes. Is the New York Times a good enough source for you?

    While the UN General Assembly can, and does, make recommendations to the Security Council, the Security Council can, and does, act without recommendations by the General Assembly. Now if you could present some evidence to show that the General Assembly has actually voted in support of any of these resolutions, then you might have a point. But I find that highly unlikely given that the non-aligned movement has voted otherwise.

    Although it is worth mentioning that as, to you, UN General Assembly votes represent ''the world,'' then you would argue that ''the world'' recognises Palestine, and ''the world'' wants Israel to sign up to the NPT, unless of course you have double standards.....
     
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    Lies and warmongering.....as opposed to Iran's quest for peace and justice.
     
  3. CaptainAngryPants

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    And why is it that the supposedly legitimate critics of Israel all seem to be so incredibly dull witted? Why does that kind of thinking always attract such superficial, thoughtless knee jerks?

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    Plenty of Nazi mentality right here on this forum.
     
  4. DrewBedson

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    Obvious that you are not intent on having a discussion as you continue to play games with a simple to use name. Those who sense their points are about to be destroyed frequently lower themselves to resort to such tactics.

    You are on ignore.
     
  5. Snappo

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    Why is it you Jew haters always go after Israel? We give 20x as much to muslim countries. Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, etc. When was the last time one of you Jew haters complained about the $1.5 billion we send each year to Egypt? When was the last time one of you Jew haters complained about the $1 billion we sent to Pakistan and the $0.5 billion we send to Jordan or the $490 milllion we send to Palestine?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid
    Top 25 Recipient Countries of U.S. Foreign Aid FY 2011 Reported in $US millions, Obligations [7] Country U.S. Total Economic and Military Assistance FY 2011, USD millions Economic Assistance FY 2011, USD millions Military Assistance FY2011, USD millions Aid received per person recipient FY2011, USD
    Afghanistan 12,924.40 2,659.00 10,265.40 434.32
    Israel 3,026.40 31.30 2,995.10 404.97
    Egypt 1,471.20 172.50 1,298.70 17.92
    Iraq 2,147.60 1,183.90 963.70 70.65
    Pakistan 1,700.10 1,026.90 673.20 9.07
    Jordan 850.80 531.60 319.20 130.73
    Colombia 436.00 276.00 160.00 9.75
    Mexico 411.20 317.50 93.70 3.62
    Somalia 278.90 203.60 75.30 28.10
    South Sudan 387.70 345.10 42.60 38.24
    Philippines 610.80 584.50 26.30 6.00
    Indonesia 252.30 229.10 23.30 1.03
    Congo (Kinshasa) 427.70 405.70 22.00 5.96
    Liberia 256.60 243.40 13.20 67.77
    Nigeria 530.10 519.20 10.90 3.20
    Kenya 1,032.10 1,029.50 2.60 24.61
    Haiti 1,263.40 1,261.50 1.90 129.98
    South Africa 757.00 755.30 1.70 15.45
    Mozambique 350.30 348.60 1.70 15.26
    Tanzania 560.10 559.20 1.00 12.29
    Uganda 469.90 469.00 0.90 14.43
    Ethiopia 607.00 606.30 0.70 6.85
    Zambia 323.20 322.80 0.40 24.07
    Sudan 534.70 534.70 0.00 15.93
    West Bank(Palestinian Authority) 463.60 463.60 109.71


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_aid
    Top Recipients of U.S. Military Aid, FY2010 Country $U.S. millions
    Afghanistan 6,800.3
    Israel 2,799.5
    Egypt 1,301.9
    Iraq 1,006.0
    Pakistan 913.9
    Jordan 303.8
    Somalia 204.0
    Colombia 185.8
    Russia 126.8
    Sudan 104.9
    Mexico 96.0
    Poland 55.6
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    You'd think mannerism would be well received and what 'tactics'? What tactical ploy or advantage do I get out of calling you sir? Lulzy indeed :D.
     
  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop calling me a Jew hater - I'm married to one!!

    Your numbers seem ludicrous.
    I did one little search and right away found that ...

    the U.S. provides Israel with $8.5 million* in military aid each day, while it gives the Palestinians $0** in military aid.

    *Source: The Congressional Research Service’s report “U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel,” written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs. According to this report, the Obama Administration requested $3.1 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for Israel for the fiscal year 2013.
    The Times of Israel recently reported that the United States will give Israel $3.4 billion ($9.3 million per day)in defense aid for the fiscal year 2014.

    Read for yourself here:
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

    The US is broke.
    Millions live on food stamps.
    Millions can't pay their mortgage anymore.
    Bankruptcies and foreclosures are rampant.
    Cities turn one by one into slum areas.
    Yet, they give and give to Israel!!!
    That little piece of land must be worth 17 trillion to uncle Sam.:roll:
     
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    At the end of the day, there is no evidence whatsoever that Iran is developing, or plans to develop, nuclear weapons. This is an undeniable fact:

    www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/...an-next-in-line-for-western-intervention.html
     
  9. Gilos

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    They are not being sanctioned because they have a bad smell...., obviously the evidence was enough to conclude they are heading that way and the whole idea is stopping them BEFORE they develope it and your conclusive evidence is achived.
     
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    Mind-reading is not conducive to the sphere of international relations.
     
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    There is no such idiom in Farsi as "wipe off the map". I would no more trust an organisation founded and operated by ex-Israeli army intelligence officers for accuracy and impartiality, than I would trust a North Korean treatise on democracy for honesty.
    MEMRI's translation has been debunked as inaccurately fraudulent.
     
  12. Gilos

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    Is MEMRI the only one that can translate Farsi ? do you know how many Farsi Jews live in Israel? more than enough to translate.
     
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    MEMRI, at least in this case, actually provided an accurate, albeit rare, translation of an Iranian quote from Ahmadinejad. The reality, often overlooked, is that it was actually the Iranian's themselves, NOT MEMRI, who misquoted Ahmadinejad. MEMRI merely exploited the situation for their own ends, which in turn was picked up by the Western media.
     
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    I don't even remotely believe that story for one second. When you stop hating Jews you won't be a Jew hater anymore. Consider that free advice.

    My numbers? Really? Pro tip: When someone gives a link above a set of number, those numbers are from the link and NOT from the person that cut/paste. And those numbers I linked came directly from Uncle Sam's website. State Department and USAID report every penny each year and it comes from Congress. In fact, the numbers from the State Dept are in a report and the bottom signature is SoS Clinton. Next year it will be SoS Kerry.

    LOL at your link "www.ifamericansknew.org" . Oh yeah, an "If America Knew" website is much more reliable than the State Department website and Congressional reports. You Jew haters will stop at nothing. My statement stands, if Jew haters want to be considered anything other than a bunch of goose stepping freakshows, then they need to complain equally about the money being sent to Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and other muslim countries.
     
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    Oh... Snappo?
     
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    There is no doubt that the U.S. needs to fix a few things but I have faith that this will be fixed.

    As far as Israel being #3 Militarily? Not even close.

    AboveAlpha
     
  18. Jazz

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    Good, I fibbed!:cool:
    Geez, since when does a Jew give free advice?? But, since I'm NOT a Jew hater, I don't need your free advice!
    Exactly!! That's why they are not correct. Since when does the government tell the truth?
    Of course it is!!
    THAT'S IT!!! I'm not here to be constantly called a Jew hater by you, you moron!!
    Bye, bye....:ignore:
     
  19. Jazz

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    That's good, stick up for your country.
    Maybe I heard wrong, but it seems to me they said so themselves. Let me google and find out.

    O.k., probably not true, except for their massive pile of nuclear bombs.
    They are however, the third largest weapons dealer to the US.

    Here I found a list of countries and their military men:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces
    US has 7.3 soldiers per 1000 inhabitants
    Israel has 79.2
    Germany only 4 and
    Russia 24.6
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    An interesting link:
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Petras_James/Power_Israel_US.html
     
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    You have that totally wrong.

    Israel's military budget is around $15billion + $3 billion in US foreign aid. In comparison Canada's budget is $22B.

    The US military budget does not include the $3 billion to Israel as that comes out of Foreign Aid budget.

    Israel buys US military equipment and upgrades with a minimum of 75% of the $3 billion a year they get.
    Israel also sells the US military a variety of upgrades and equipment developed and manufactured in Israel.

    Those are the facts.
     
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    Thanks! That sounds more realistic and believable.
     
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    Jonsa, Israel has the largest US foreign aid budget for the smallest population since 1948. Compare US foreign aid to Haiti and it population with that of Israel.
     
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    4th time.... Prove or retract in full...


    Originally Posted by Snappo

    "It's a shame we care more about international opinion than we do about our own safety. Iran is already making nuclear weapons. In fact, they tested three so far in North Korea. But America will sit quietly by until Iran sells some to Al Qaeda, Hamas, or just drops one in Tel Aviv themselves. Then suddenly USA will have to answer to why they let that happen. Those stupid sanctions clearly aren't working. Three decades of sanctions already and nothing is dissuading them from working towards full scale nuclear weapon production."
     
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    US foreign aid specifically designated for military expenditures of which 75% must be spent with US suppliers. Apart from that there are a couple of tiny grants (a few million) mostly related to health.

    Maybe this congressional research report will help clarify the situation for you. It provides detailed rationale and fairly accurate security assessments.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33476.pdf
     
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    I am well aware of the loans and grants Israel receives...and the grants they get automatically to cover the principle and interest on the loans they get..

    Look at their population compared to that of Haiti.. and what Haiti receives.
     

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