9-11 required a full scale, bloody, trillion dollar, ten year war on Iraq? Talk about your scummy liars.... Your boys lied us into the biggest debaucle in US history which has cost thousands of US soldiers their lives and health. Meanwhile, Bush and all of his crooked cronies cleaned up on the fat profits generated by that idiotic war . Next to that, Clinton's BS regarding the Lewinski affair seems extremely petty. Get a grip champ.
You can always tell a conservative is making a good point when a liberal jumps in and brings up Iraq in a ridiculous attempt to hijack the thread. If you want to talk about Iraq, please feel free to start your own thread (although it probably wouldn't be in "Current Events"). This thread is about Clinton swearing in the next mayor of NYC.
And the *******s would have done what after 9-11? Funny how you bash what Bush did but as usual you never came up with a plan of your own. Typical, chump.
Attacking Mexico or Canada would have been just as rational as Iraq. They had as much to do with the attacks as Iraq did. My plan would have been to hire competent people on my national security team instead of a bunch of hackers who sat on their asses for six months while the attack on America was hatched then executed. For this bang up job, Condy Rice and others got promotions. It was as if they had been paid to let it happen. At least Clinton's team didn't preside over the biggest mass murder on US soil, even as he was diddling a secretary in his spare time sport. Then attack the wrong country in the aftermath. LOL BTW: You call yourself "Angry Taxpayer"....Who do you think is still paying off the trillion dollar Iraq debaucle?
Yeah, baby, this is another great point brought up by the GOP faithful to up their chances in the next election. Good luck with that, along with your Benghazi crap. That should really seal the deal in 2016. LOL. BTW: Anyone who supported the idiotic Iraq deal is no conservative in my book champ.
There is plenty of information out and yes I was around and even debating on CompuServe at the time before we accessed the internet. I can assure you what I posted is the factual history of the issue and the man. You might try Posner's and Schipper's books on the matter. The fact is Clinton sexually molested a subordinate worker when he was governor, along with several other such acts on other women, and he was sued in a federal court because of it. He plotted with a young girl he was having a sexual affair with, another subordinate employee, to hide that relationship which if she was called to testify in a deposition and created a false affidavit to try and avoid her having to testify. He entered it into court affirm to it's truthfulness. That was a felony, perjury and obstruction of justice. That is prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice. At the same time he was plotting with one of his political advisers, Sidney Blumenthal, to trash that young woman as a stalker if she went public with her story. What a great guy, he sets her up to do a term in a federal prison in order to try and save his own political ares, and at the same time plots to smear her in public if she doesn't go along. What a guy to swear in the next mayor of NYC, what an utter sleazebag for the Democrats to worship. And his wife played along with all of it.
Not by a long shot, Nixon was a little creepy, but a sleazebag who sexually abused women and committed felonies in a federal court to try and cover it up, nope. Had Clinton had an affair and divorced Hillary because their marriage had fallen apart he would have had no problems. Clinton was/is a serial abuser of women, especially women he had power over. He also grossly violated his oath of office both on a legal level and a personal level and should have been removed from office because of it. The Democrats prostituted themselves over him and lost any credibility when it comes to sexual abuse of women in the workplace. And when you can't debate the facts.................do you even know what the true issue was with Foster both before and after his death? Yes because most are not only ignorant about the man but purposely misinformed by the MSM all these years. I bet you don't know what the Flowers scandal was really about do you. Not necessarily but I certainly don't just sit back and watch people make misstatements about him and certainly point out the fact that the Democrats adore such a sleazebag woman abuser.
As a child I watched along side my parents the nightly news with Walter Cronkite. Clinton made that a not a very good thing to do. As far as the India thing I would explain how wrong it is to treat women in such a manner, but note how you compare the rape in India with Clinton's acts towards women, there are certainly similarities.
He could not for 5 years during which he was disbarred and lost his license to practice because of his perjury and obstruction of justice. A very Democratic and sympathetic Arkansas Bar did that yet the Senate Democrats prostituted themselves into keeping him in office.
No actually they do not as evidence here and the claims he was impeached for having sex with Lewinsky and he shouldn't have been because it was a "personal" matter. It was absolutely unbelievable that we could have a sitting President walk into a federal court and commit perjury and obstruction of justice and then go into a federal grand jury and do the same thing and remain in office no matter what the issue was in that court. But then throw in the fact that he violated federal workplace rules and created a hostile work environment in the WH and the Democrats stuck their heads in the sand to protect him when they presented themselves as the party that stood for women in the workplace was the height of absurdity and hypocrisy. And now once again they place him on a pedestal for all to worship. - - - Updated - - - And when all else fails throw the race card.
According to the Constitution, the House, and only the House can impeach a President. The House is charged to find whether an impeachable offense was committed and whether the offense was adequate enough to remove the President from office. Obviously, since Clinton stipulated that he did in fact commit the crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice in an effort to deny a citizen of their due process right, the House ruled correctly. After the impeachment, the Senate can convict based on whether the President actually committed the crime. Once again, since the President admitted he committed the crimes, this should have been a simple process, however, Democrats in the Senate voted on whether the same two crimes Richard Nixon was about to be removed from office for, rose to the level of a removable offense, which was unconstitutional. The House already settled that issue.
I'll look into those sources. My main question, which I can't find any info on anywhere online is who initiated the relationship. If it was Clinton, then I'd support impeachment. If it were Lewinsky, then Clinton should never have been put on trial for molestation charges.
He wasn't impeached because he has a sexual relationship with Lewinsky and it doesn't matter who initiated it and he did not sexually molest her. He was impeached because he lied about it under oath in a civil rights lawsuit brought by a former state worker who he sexually molested while she was on the job. Should a President who commits perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court be impeached and removed from office? Yes, no brainer.
I don't support the idea that a boss can be charged with a crime if his subordinate initiated a sexual relationship with him. That's my point. If it were Lewinsky who initiated the relationship, then it never should have even been brought up as a crime.
15 years ago. Time to move along. He is NOT the POTUS anymore. Still trying to figure out what your problem is.
Then you don't adhere to the law under which a hostile workplace is created if a boss treats employees who give him sexual favors different from those who do not. That is why the gifts given to Lewinsky by Clinton and his having her in his office enjoying their sexual play while she was on the clock and others were there working were issues before the court. His relationship with Lewinsky was never brought up as a crime although it violated federal workplace rules and sexual harassment law. It was brought up in the Jones lawsuit as a result of the Molinari amendments, which Clinton signed into law with much fanfare by women's groups, which require a boss who is sued for sexual harassment in the workplace to give testimony as to any subordinate employees he had sex with and what favors or special treatment he offer them in return, quid pro quo sexual harassment. It supports the plaintiffs complaint that the boss sexually harassed them and that that the boss had a propensity to do so. Clinton tried to object to the line of questioning and Judge Wright correctly overruled as the law required it. Then he conspired with Lewinsky to create the false affidavit which he submitted into the court. Felony.
Try again Should a President who commits perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court be impeached and removed from office? The OP is quite clear. Still trying to figure out why people put this sleazebag up on a pedestal and worship him, that is a far more interesting question than yours.
We all have questions regarding Politicians. I'm still trying to figure out why Reagan is considered a conservative God when he was ANYTHING but conservative.
OK but let's focus on this one into which you injected yourself. Should a President who commits perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court be impeached and removed from office?
Speaking of impeachment- - I'm hearing that Moochell is ready to cut her losses and move out of the White House before the new Congress, elected in 2014, fires Big Ears. She says that Barry is an idiot and she just can't take much more of his childish behavior when she is in public with him.