Holes shaped like planes?

Water will cut steel. Not surprising, if you know the physics.

 

I see statements like this and about fall off my chair!

You have no concept of physics.

 

but the video evidence conclusively shows you are WRONG

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yeh at an astounding mind boggling rate of a couple inches per hour!

some people think red herrings are good to eat too.

 

Your uncanny lack of basic physics knowledge is astounding. You are looking for bent metal when in fact the outside columns sheered at their attachment points. They would not even have to bend to do that. Do you understand anything about sheer?

 

really?

but they look like exploded cigars not severed joints1 whats up with that!

 

Exploding cigars? Well, when you deal with imagination instead of reality, hilarity ensues. Good luck with your comedy show.

 

Boy this was a funny thread to read through. First it he claimed the speed was impossible, then when that was debunked he fell back on wondering how a 120,000kg object moving 500mph can cut a hole in light weight steel box columns. No planer physics are special.

Oh, and btw Scott, in response to your 'no true scotsman' fallacy, you've said several dozen times here that no plane hit the Pentagon, or Shanksville PA, which makes you a no planer too. Enjoy being your own disinfo agent.

 

you talking about me? LOL

I dont think so!

first off the plane does not weigh 1/4 million pounds, I corrected you the last time you said that and you are still making the same error.

secondly the mass of the aircraft is distributed, just another little problem you duck out of dealing with

thirdly light steel box columns does not mean tin can aluminum like an aircraft now does it?

In fact EACH column as in each column imposed a force of 350 TONS per square foot totaling nearly 15,000 tons against the alleged wings of the aircraft alone and you believe the wings, the equivalent of a beer can would simply slice right through the building? I'd like to see your physics!

its physically impossible for that plane to go through the building.



see how the wing just gets sliced off like a hot knife through butter.

 

No, that's total BS. There are no steel bullets. There are steel core bullets and the military played with steel clad bullets during WWII but no one is stupid enough to shoot a steel bullet.
The simple point is you claim to have swaged a steel bullet down a steel tube at an average of 2750 fps using a flammable propellant.
Most likely scenario by 99% is that steel bullet never would have left the barrel as no standard firearm is designed to handle that pressure. Hospital or morgue for the trigger puller.
Stop making stuff up. You look childish making claims you no nothing about.

 

What relevance does copper wiring in an airliner have? You seem to be horribly lost.

 

I'd like to see your load ratings for the fixings of those columns. But you wont produce it, because it will show how little you really know about the construction of those towers

 

You can dream up whatever data you want and try to fit what you never witrnessed into your little box and in the end you know nothing your claims are trash.

never said I bought it now did I? Swaged? Are you serious?

I can tell you lots of stories that would blow your mind and perfectly replicable if you have an appropriate background.

Otherwise I was impressed how well it performed.

 

what? dont you have calculator? only takes a few minutes. Do it yourself unless you arent capable in which case, well, too bad.

 

Yes, there are no relevant quantities of copper in planes... That's the point. That's why your copper bullets go through steel while aluminium & fiberglass doesn't. So your video with the bullets was pointless, especially since you keep mentioning the damage potential of high speed objects. I don't think the planes were as fast as bullets, especially the one that allegedly hit the North Tower.

 

Even if there were planes, that does not make them responsible for the holes. People distinguish between the idea of flying props and that of high energy weapons/ bombs. Notice that.

The implications that bombs raise make the presence or no-presence of planes irrelevant.

 

Yes swaged. It is the term professionals use for the physical deformation a bullet undergoes as it's constricted into the bore of a firearm. Sad you don't know that.
So you turned your own bullet did you? Nice, to what dimensions did you turn it to? Dimensions of your bore? Dimensions of your lands? Twist rate? Length and weight of projectile? Bearing length? Degree of ogive? FB or BT? Charge weight? Powder? How far away was the target? For what velocity, bullet weight and range was the gun zeroed for? Where was the POA? The POI?
Let's get specific if you wish to talk trash.

 

What makes you think I have not done it years ago. Working in a room full architectural engineers does have it's perks.

 

the point however is who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) its not the topic? Oh and btw you dont swage a steel bullet.

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well why didnt you say so, then I wouldnt have had to do it.

 

I assumed you already had, otherwise how can you say how the facade should have reacted if you dont know the tolerances. Seems to be a pretty basic step in the process

 

well when a little duck is 26 tone and goes right through it does not take much thought to know that 350 tone will slice it like a hot knife through butter. Oh wait, the wing allegedly sliced the steel I forgot.

 

Whats a tone

And where is it suggested the wings sliced through' anything?

 

Exactly what we would expect from a fully loaded 767-200 traveling at 560mph. Thanks for agreeing!

 

Oh, I see - commercial airplanes flown into buildings. Exactly as I thought.

 

Well the problem is, he is not understanding what he is seeing. Those ragged bits of metal are the aluminium covers put over the column trees. The trees themselves failed at the end plates