Guess which person is NOT allowed in Kroger's Grocery Store ! (pic)

I just don't share the mindset of some.

Just because you have right doesn't mean you should always exercise it. And you should choose wisely the way you exercise it, as rights come with responsibilities to check and balance them.

 

I have a problem with bringing outside food in a restaurant. The purpose
of a business is to make money for the owners and stockholders. Period.

I have no problem with any gun in any place. Well except... no, I don't
have a problem with them there, either.

 

Maybe the 1911's you have shot, the few I have shot have heavier trigger pulls than that.

 

Yea, she looks real "hard".

 

Or, in my case, because I don't want to leave it in my hunting truck (that is missing the passenger side window) while I stop at Kroger to pick up the wife's emergency box of tampons on the way home from the range.

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She looks like a fun date to me.

 

Fine, and if you don't like people exercising other rights as well in your business, then open a private store.

 

People usually open a store to make money, a private store doesn't seem like a money maker in my eyes.

 

Yea, BJs and Sams clubs never made it. Oh wait.

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Sounds like you are the type to be scared out of the store. I can see it now, you running out screaming waving your hands around hyperventilating.

 

Especially carrying a rifle without a magazine.

 

Um, both of those examples are bulk discount stores, not exactly a private store. Anyone can get a membership there as long as they pay the membership fee.

I also don't think they will discriminate based upon race, gender, etc. either.

 

Hence, private.

 

And that's just your opinion. I personally would not carry an AR-15 or rifle on my shoulder everywhere I go, but I wouldn't care either if others did. I don't think carrying a rifle means someone thinks they are "hard" or rambo, unless they were wearing something with wording about kill'em all, let God sort them out" or something like that, or obviously strutting around. Someone going about their business who just happens to have a rifle is fine with me.
Even the idiot strutting around is fine, I can just shake my head at the idiot and go about my business.

During hunting season I frequently see people going in and out of places with their rifles slung on their shoulders and no one bats an eye, so why would anyone care when it isn't hunting season?

The problem is that people have been conditioned to fear guns in general. The anti-gun extremists have been too loud for too long and everyone is buying into their BS.

There is much debate about open vs concealed carry in terms of effectiveness or providing the surprise element. There are pros and cons on both sides. Let's examine a hypothetical: A thug decides he is going to rob a store. He walks into the store with his 9mm in pocket, but as he makes his way to the counter realizes "damn, there's like 4-5 people walking around in here with AR-15's on their shoulders". Does he continue with his plan, or does he go in search of a different place? We don't know, but I'd think chances are he would most likely wish to avoid a shootout of any kind.

In this case, the open carry does have a potential deterrent factor. It's also plausible to think these people are just making targets of themselves, but again, there are so many factors to consider. I think a single person carrying open is more likely to become a target vs having several people open carrying.

Either way, we don't know why someone chooses to open carry a rifle, or pistol, or whatever...maybe the rifle is the only gun they have? It doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother anyone else.

 

Factory stock, generic 1911's tend to have trigger pulls around 4+lbs. Some smithing can get them down quite low.

I do agree carrying one cocked and unlocked is not smart, but cocked and locked is the defacto standard for the 1911.

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And completely beside the point.

 

Are they, or are they not a "private" store under the definition you have referred to? Do they meet the criteria as a "private" business? Who they sell memberships to is irrelevant.

 

So why do you confuse the two?

 

It is so hilarious that Lefties LOVE everything about the Nordic countries that allow their people to carry semi-auto rifles EVERYWHERE and they say nothing about that but keep heaping praise on them. Here in America, not so much.. These people are just hateful.

 

Yeah, I just haven't shot a 1911 with a light trigger. My M&P45 has a APEX trigger kit (5lbs) and it is similar to the 1911 trigger.

 

Can any of our resident liberals show us where open carry has been a problem in Kroger stores?

 

Different opinions for different people.

I personally think its not the smartest choice, but that's the beauty of this country. We don't have to agree to be able to both exercise our rights as we so choose, and freely discuss them.

 

Because with rights come responsibilities. If you flippantly and irresponsibly exercise your rights then you are abusing them. Strapping on a rifle and waltzing into a grocery store just because you can to make a statement is, in my opinion, an asinine use of hard fought for rights.

 

Exactly, so the result is, where allowed they can carry them.

Question is though, if you COULD make it illegal to carry rifles openly, would you?

 

No, because as you pointed out hunting season see many people openly carrying. I myself have on occasion. Never into a grocery store.

That's the difference in my opinion. There are times and places where its acceptable and times and places when its just not smart responsible gun ownership.

 

And that scenario is all your opinion backed by irresponsible judgement. That picture does NOTHING to indicate he is flippant, irresponsible or doing it only ot make a statement. Such rush to judgement is irresponsible, does that make you an irresponsible gun owner too? I agree if what you dreamed up were true, I'd take issue as well, but I sense that you are falling right in to the hands of the propagandists that produced this POS and they are in fact the same group that we fight against for those hard fought rights you mentioned. Which side are you on?

 

So why do you jump to the conclusion with that piece of propaganda to assume it is not smart or an acceptable place and time? I have had to do the very same thing in Nevada while on lunch break from a firearms training course. I was on foot and the grocery store had no problem with conducting business with me or other course attendees. Of course I did not have a mag attached, but this picture is BS propaganda and NOT REAL! Don't fall for their BS.

 

sorry, too lazy to read all 43 pages.

that being said, why would they allow a girl to eat in the store? other kids would assume they can open up ice cream there in the display case and eat for free.