Guess which person is NOT allowed in Kroger's Grocery Store ! (pic)

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Members of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America are kicking their pleas up a notch by including print and digital advertisements for the first time in one of the group’s corporate campaigns aimed at Kroger to prohibit the open carry of firearms.

    The ad campaign, titled “Guess Which One,” includes a series of images that feature subjects carrying semiautomatic rifles inside the supermarket chain, whose stores allow customers to carry guns. They appear standing next to other people who are disobeying the company’s in-store policies.

    For example, one picture shows a man standing next to a child, who is eating an ice cream cone in the frozen food aisle. The text asks: “Kroger doesn’t permit outside food and drink inside their stores. So why would they allow this loaded gun?” Another image shows an armed woman standing next to a shirtless man in the produce section. And in another, a man with a gun at his side appears next to a teenager standing on a skateboard.

    Kroger responded by saying they respect the right of responsible individuals to carry such guns freely in their stores.

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    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/moms-demand-action-kroger-print-ads?cid=sm_m_main_1_20140905_31045996
    http://www.thekrogerco.com/docs/sta...mers-carrying-firearms-in-stores.pdf?sfvrsn=2

    My take - I am all about the right to bear arms, but it must be reasonable and logical. It just blows my mind that people think a man walking around with a gun like that in a store should be respected and accepted. Who wants an America in 2014 that looks like the days of the Wild West or the current Middle East - where swarms of young men walk around with large guns in the open in places where they really aren't needed.

    I'm all for carry and conceal. It is logical and what I think a civil society would tolerate. But the photo above, and the right wing, pro-gun policies that have no problem with it is not something that, to me, makes sense for us as a nation.
     
  2. PT Again

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    I hate to break it to you, but NOWHERE that sells food and drink...............allow in OUTSIDE food and drink.........

    These (*)(*)(*)(*)ing memes are getting asinine.......
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i have no problem with barring outside food.
    i have a problem with allowing guns like that.
     
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    Restaurants - sure; grocery stores - really?
     
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    I am a proud gun owner. I am also a reasonable person. Not only is there absolutely no need to carry an assault rifle while grocery shopping, it also scares people. Could we convict someone for pulling a concealed weapon and killing the man in this photo? After all, it's okay to kill someone if you fear for your life right? How could you prove that someone didn't fear for their life when seeing a man standing in a grocery store holding an assault rifle? By many gun rights supporters own beliefs the shooter would be within their rights to kill the man in this photo right?
     
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    I think open carry as depicted above is asinine. However, if we assume that the rifle-toting gentleman has no desire to cause mayhem, is carrying an unloaded weapon, and is merely there to make his pro-2A statement and buy his groceries:

    - which one of them is more likely to cause a customer to be injured?
    - which one of them creates a health/sanitation problem?
    - which one of them generates more overall lawsuit liability for the store owner?

    Answer: The girl with the ice cream.

    Beyond that: Kroger, if they want to, should be able to disallow the gun-toter from coming into their store at all, and have him arrested for trespassing if he refuses.
     
  7. Nunya D.

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    Yes, I'm sure Kroger is just swamped with customers carrying rifles like that into their store.

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    Very weak argument. Just the presence of a weapon does not reach the level of making someone fear for their life.
     
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    This, I own a multitude of firearms and Ive been saying this forever. There is no need to walk around as store with an AR-15 on your shoulder. It scares people and the people who do that only do it because they "can" and they think its funny that it makes people uncomfortable.

    Quit with all that "we're exercising our rights" crap. Exercise your rights by carrying a concealed weapon like mature adults would. Only people who walk around like that are the ones who get off on knowing how uneasy they are making the people around them. I have an AK-47 that looks like it came straight out of one of those Call of Duty Modern Warfare games. All the bells and whistles and lasers and sights etc. I could open carry that around with me for protection. But I don't, I carry a standard Glock .40 because I am a grown man who realizes that yes society IS afraid of a gun like an AK-47 even if their fears aren't warranted. I have the maturity to actually RESPECT how other people feel and won't run around scaring the crap out of people while giggling inside like a 12 year old.
     
  9. Channe

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    exactly ! right wingers who think walking around a grocery store with a weapon like that isn't inviting paranoia and problems are being cynical.

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    There is no constitutional right to carry ice cream.
     
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    In a closed room, with no witnesses, maybe. You must have a reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury, and you'd better have witnesses to that effect. In this case, if the guy was roaming through the store pointing his gun at people to terrorize them, then one of those folks shooting him would be justified and no jury in the country would reasonably disagree. If he's just buying groceries and squeezing loaves of bread when you shoot him, then no.

    FWIW, I fully agree that there is no reason or benefit for open carry merely for the purpose of shocking and frightening people. It is counter to the cause.
     
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    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[1]"
     
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    I would be very surprised if anybody has EVER walked through a grocery store with an AR-15 strapped on their shoulder (unless they were making a political statement). This poster is taking a situation and exaggerating it.

    Here in Oregon, I have walked into plenty of small stores with my hunting rifle slung on my shoulder. These would be the small convenience stores in the middle of nowhere and it would be while I was hunting. Most times I would ask if it was alright with the attendant. I have never been told "no". I would never do in at a busy store in a populated area. Anybody that would carry even a hunting rifle in a busy store, in a populated area, is not quit right in the mind. I secured hand gun is much different then carrying a hunting rifle, shotgun, or AR-15.
     
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    the point is is that it is LEGAL for this guy to do so.
    that no one may have is pointless.
     
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    Only paranoia that it would cause is from pansy leftist who think any one with a fire arm are out to get them

    I lived around guns all my life ive lived in a town that I don't know a souls who doesn't at least have hunting rifle and im talking about every man woman and child old enough to safely learn to pull a trigger we see people every day all day long have a gun on their hip or a rifle slung over their shoulder and you want to know the crime rate in our town a big fat O

    When I joined the army I was more scared of the liberal Yankee New Yorker with that loaded M16 in his hands because he never seen a rifle in his life let alone hold one then I was with the redneck Bubba from backwater USA that grew up with a gun in his hands
     
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    I disagree, that is EXACTLY the point. The meme is taking a situation and painting it as an extreme. We do not need to make laws for something that is not a problem.
     
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    When you assume that you know what other people that you hate are thinking you lose credibility. Maybe the guy was on his way to the range on his Harley when he ran over a cat so he needed to stop and get some BBQ sauce. He can't leave the gun hanging on his bike so he took it into the store.

    You don't like people who exercise their rights??
    People who claim to have scary guns are just weenies that want to look like they have the nerve to hold such a scary gun but they really hate guns,, in my opinion.

    I don't want to open carry because you lose your tactical advantage and would be the first person shot if someone happened to be in the store to rob it or just to kill people. On the other hand your cowardly terrorists may pass Kroger's by if they think that some nut may be in there with an AR.
     
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    I grew up in rural missouri, & as a teen, would ride my bicycle over to my buddy's house & we'd go squirrel hunting in the woods. Imagine a kid with a single shot 22 slung over his shoulder riding down the road.. It was not a political statement, & no one called the cops on me, or shot at me thinking i was a serial killer.

    Many things that are legal are not appropriate, in polite society, & in all settings. This ad makes a caricature of the 2nd amendment, by portraying a non problem as a political statement.

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    This is absurd. Who in their right mind would stop to get bbq sauce for fresh road kill?



    Sweet & sour, i can understand... :roflol:
     
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    This activist group is free to protest, and Kroger is free to continue its current policies.

    Personally, if I felt that strongly about guns being present in a grocery store, I'd just shop at a chain that doesn't allow them. It's not like Kroger is the only chain to go to. I'm sure I'd probably get in trouble if I brought a rifle into Harris Teeter.
     
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    I agree. I'm a Conservative, but there's no reason why these guys should be allowed to march around grocery stores acting like Rambo. All that does is intimidate and scare people.... and responsible people would not consider packing a rifle around a grocery store b/c they would have the common sense to know how their presence would effect the other customers.... so why doesn't Kroger know this?
     
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    lol - some of the responses in this thread is pretty much why the GOP is fading away as a party.
    they need to ditch these far right social issues and stick to fiscal conservatism.
     
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    I'm sure if this started to ACTUALLY HAPPEN, they would make regulations to address it. Why make rules for non problems? That is the left's style, to nanny us to death with every imaginable scenario, choking our freedom & oppressing us with rules.
     
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    Lol...The guy is lucky that a cop didn't see him walking through a grocery store with that gun. He probably would have gunned him down as a potential criminal or terrorist, especially if he was a black guy.
     
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    Because Kroger probably did not intend for people to carry guns like this when they made it a policy that people would be allowed to open carry. They were probably thinking more on the lines of people wearing handguns strapped to their hips. I would bet that AR-15s were not even considered. I would also bet that long guns are very seldom carried into stores unless done so to "make a statement".

    As I said before, the meme is taking something to an extreme.....and people are acting on that extreme. We are seeing people look at this meme and are saying 'it is ridiculous to allow that".......when it probably isn't happening to begin with. It then puts Kroger's policy in a false and bad light to pressure them into changing their policy.....based on a situation that does not exist to begin with.
     
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    Actually, what is more revealing to me, is how liberals take a situation....blow it out of proportion....and claim that it is the "norm". Then they use the extreme, non-existent situation to demand "change".
     

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