St. Louis Police demand apology from Rams for 'Hands up, Don't shoot' gesture

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The protesters are the rioters. You don't get to separate them, since you can't look at a protester and tell if they riot.

    Nice try though
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    And the reason you call him an idiot is what exactly?

    It's a false symbol so what is good about it? It perpetuates a lie so what good is it? It creates a racial divide based on a false premise so what good is it?

    It takes a special kind or stupidity to continue to accuse an innocent person of a crime and defend and immortalize a violent criminal for his acts.
     
  3. Dale Cooper

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    It's always amusing to have to remind people what the subject is. Here ya go:

    St. Louis Police demand apology from Rams for 'Hands up, Don't shoot' gesture


    Additional free clue: It's about the Police Dept, not the NFL.

    Hope this helps.

    /sigh
     
  4. ArmySoldier

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    Now, the protesters are calling for everyone to walk out of school and work at 1PM today.

    Typical leftwing nutjobs: "Everyone stop working! That'll solve the problems!". I bet they expect money for not working, too.

    First they riot for an attempted cop-killer, then they tell everyone to stop working. Not to mention, they block traffic on high ways.

    These are the dumbest bunch of racists I've ever seen.
     
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    That ^^^ tells one all they need to know about the mindset of many of the posters here.
    The NFL Players with their hands up.... yeah... they understand you think that.
    I happen to think Brown placed himself in a position for what happened.
    But I am also capable of seeing a broader picture.

    max
     
  6. Dale Cooper

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    It's highly unlikely insurance will pay any of these claims. Riots and civil disobedience are exceptions to insurance payouts.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Insurance does not pay for damage due to war, civil unrest and riot. Many lost everything they had. But it is telling that even with insurance someone has the loss and rates will go up but that seems to bother you not a twit.
     
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    Not true. If you'd read the article I linked you'll see that you're spreading a myth and lies.

    Those very things, along with loss of use/loss of income are covered under the vast majority of commercial business insurance policies.

    If these business owners don't have insurance, well, then, that's a massive fail and they earned their loss.
     
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    That's funny. You live by what-ifs and strawmen.

    And, yes, for leftists if you have insurance they're free to burn your business down. If you have something they don't, they're free to take it from you by force.

    As for apologizing, forget it. They're incapable of feeling guilt or shame because they have no sense of responsibility.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Actually the left refuses to bring the bigger problem into focus let alone even acknowledge it and this was just a further display of it. Why didn't these players come out with some symbol that said "stop the crime and stop being criminals"? THAT is the bigger problem.
     
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    So I point out the stupid in your posts and you tell me to get back on topic. :lol:
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    If you refuse to read it that is your problem.

    In the evidence dump, why do you refuse to read it.

    No it is because blacks commit crimes, especially violent crime as was the case here, in highly disproportionate numbers.
     
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    Part of the issue, sure. But what perturbs me is that it's a combination of militarized police, which uses force over good ole fashioned police work, and violent subculture propaganda.

    The problem is neither side, left, nor right, will accept the commonality between the two. Instead, everything is siphoned off and politicized to befit an ever increasingly rabid and militant constituency hell bent on the destruction of the opposition at all costs.

    It's a combination of BOTH.
     
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    Good ole fashioned police work will not stop a riot. Sorry you think otherwise.
     
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    I saw the pictures. You cannot with any sensibility tell me Mr. Wilson was a beaten man. That's bullsh*t and everyone who has seen those pictures knows it.


    Blacks are also charged 8X more frequently then whites with contempt of cop chares such as "obstruction" for simply verbalizing disagreement. Or, resisting. So it's a non-starter.

    We can discuss sociostatus issues all we like. We can also discuss incarceration and jurisprudence, as well as police protocol all we like. The issue here is a rift between the two, when they are mutually INCLUSIVE. We don't change the way policing and society works without both addressing overreach by our government officials AND socially obtuse violence accepting behaviors.

    Neither the *******s or conartists want to address both. One side wants to just blame everything on blacks, another side wants to just blame everything on cops.

    IMHO, cops bear a larger moral responsibility. If we're going to give them the authority to exercise execution rights, AND, give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to indictments, they have to express a larger moral responsibility in the face of public scrutiny.

    They have failed.
     
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    Why? You wouldn't accept it because it goes against your prejudices.



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    Do you have any pictures proving this DIDN'T happen? The bullet holes on the inside of the cop car along with Browns blood would tend to prove that Brown was leaning in the window of the car and wrestling for the gun when he WAS SHOT IN THE HAND.

    Don't let facts intrude upon your Black Power fantasy world,though.



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    No,our prisons are 44 percent black because blacks commit more crimes and thugs are heroes in the black culture. Truth to tell,the percentage should be higher,but the most minor offenders are not given jail time because we just don't have the room to lock them up.
     
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    Good ole fashioned police work would have stopped the lethal shooting of Mr. Brown. Instead of stopping folks for walking down the street, Mr. Wilson could have been reviewing video footage and then obtained a warrant and affected an arrest at Mr. Brown's residence.

    Instead, militarism wins the day, confrontation replaces investigation, and we have a corpse rotting in the street for four hours, businesses burned and riots.

    Lovely day in the ole US of A.
     
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    Wrong.

    While I tend to agree with the grand jury decision based on the evidence, lumping peaceful protestors in with violent rioters is intellectually dishonest and incredibly lazy. Protesting something is legal. Whether you agree or disagree with what they're protesting really means nothing towards whether or not they are rioters or peaceful protestors. Your "guilty because it looks that way to me" mentality here is the exact same mentality behind the condemnation of Officer Wilson. Wilson was not charged because of facts. Was that wrong? Should he have been charged because of biased subjective perceptions colored with the memory of past events which had absolutely no connection to the facts of this specific case?
     
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    Arson isn't. Only ACCIDENTAL fires.

    I doubt that the Ferguson riots will be enough to bankrupt these business owners. They will be rebuilt and repaid for their loss of use and loss of income, and get shiny new buildings to show their wares.

    So yes, they will be covered. Any income lost will be reimbursed.

    http://www.ibamag.com/news/the-riots-in-ferguson-what-insurance-agents-need-to-know-19262.aspx[/QUOTE]

    What color is the sky on your home planet?
     
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    Sorry Champ, you don't get to call me wrong, and then deflect from my point. Can you walk up to a brown supporter and know if they are a protester or a rioter, when they aren't in the act?
     
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    Wrong, it takes a special kind of stupidity to ignore the evidence.
     
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    Are they protesting or rioting when you walk up to htem?
     
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    Insurance won't cover this
     
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    PART of the issue??? It IS the issue. Crime in the black community and crime outside their community that blacks commit. Brown was engaged in such crime when he brought about his own demise.

    Excuse me, Wilson was in his proper uniform, basic dark blue and in an SUV, he was not militarized. The heavy duty stuff came out when the riots appeared including snipers firing at police and rescue and firemen, rocks being thrown, fire bombs being tossed. Tell me exactly how "good ole fashioned police work" would have stopped the riots and violence and protected the police in the process?

    The problem is the left will not accept the fact that the crime and violence and disrespect for the law is what brings it about. The police would much rather NOT have to patrol black neighborhoods as much as they do and use those resources elsewhere. They would rather NOT have to be so concerned that anything they have an encounter with a young black male they may end up dead. The would rather not have to use lethal force to stop young black males from attacking them or other people.

    And when you try to equate them you only ignore the real problem in the black community, the crime blacks commit. And that is what is going on. You want to bet that not once during Obama's planned meeting today that the suggestion that Brown should not have committed the robbery nor attacked the police officer will be brought up? That the suggestings coming out will be about how bad the police are and how the police have to change and not addressing the violent nature of young black males such as Brown and what are we going to do about it.
     
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    What color is the sky on your home planet?[/QUOTE]

    You clearly have absolutely no understanding of insurance. Please, cease and stop proliferating lies and mythology. It is STANDARD COVERAGE. Civil disobedience as well as Unrest is covered. ACTS OF TERRORISM OR WAR are excluded, as standard. You must be the type that doesn't read their insurance contract, let alone the link I provided.

    But keep strutting and sh*tting the polarized party line.
     

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