St. Louis Police demand apology from Rams for 'Hands up, Don't shoot' gesture

I think the rioters should be thrown in prison and prosecuted for their crimes. If even one of them are protesting legally, we must clearly draw a line between the two. I think the RWers are grouping them together so they can sling the mud the rioters richly deserve on the protesters too. I get really worked up when basic freedoms are attacked. Saying protesting=riots is an attack on one of our basic freedoms.

 

It doesn't matter if they've arrested anyone. They don't have to. They just have to use their position of authority to discourage free speech.

Same reason teachers can't pray in the classroom. A government agency cannot discourage free speech in any way whatsoever. Doesn't have to be just by force of law. It can be through raw authority and intimidation.

 

Clearly legitimate protest is legal and valued while chaotic, anarchistic violence is not.

I take it as a positive sign that, out of the entirety of the NFL, only a few dupes in St. Louis stood in solidarity with a hulking sociopathic criminal.

 

Blah, blah, blah. You act v@g-sore about infringing on the player's freedoms, while ignoring the SLPOA's same rights. The police have no legal backing to force an apology. Their demand is nothing more than them utilizing their freedom of speech.

You want to talk about special kind of stupidity: it takes an amazing level of functional ret@rdation to continue to blather about some sort of grievance needing redressing, when the grievance has not a whit of foundation. Brown was a scummy sh1tbag, and the cop acted 100% within his rights.

 

NOPE, YOU want to stifle THEIR free speech. Why can't they express their displeasure at the Rams perpetuating a lie that hate mongerers put out there?

 

There is nothing wrong with them showing support for the protest, but the gesture is a lie and a slap in the face to LEO's everywhere. Those player need to apologize to SLPD.

 

So what are the odds they are going to get some form of punishment/ I know and have satisfaction that each and everyone of of thee 5 thug supporters are now destined to really screw up big time and it really will be news. I know one of those guys is a father to three different kids by three different ladies so he is actually a huge part of the problem, but he can throw a ball real good or run fast so its ok.

 

It does when they players chose a side and to support a symbol and a event that is a lie.

 

Answer this question, then, with your theory. By your theory, we would NEVER bomb terrorists because we don't have exact evidence that each person bombed is 100% a terrorist. Yet, Obama bombs terrorists all the time using drones. Obama doesn't know for sure that all 12 men in the AQ lab are terrorists, but he knows 6 of them are. By your theory, why does he bomb them? What if someone in there ISN'T a terrorist? (innocent casualties happen all the time).

 

These guys in St. Louis were a minority within a minority so take solace in that though we don't know how many footballers wanted to join in but thought better of it eventually.

 

I've been thinking. If those players really cared and were really concerned about the people of Ferguson, they each would have donated that game's salary to either help rebuild the businesses or to some organization devoted to race relations. But they would never give up their money to help their people because they are too greedy. They just wanted to come off as cool smug thugs. It symbolized nothing. I don't blame the police department. They have enough to contend with from other outside sources. They don't need this too.

 

I didn't agree with you. Judging by your posts, I doubt there is much we would ever agree on.

If you want to take an intellectual shortcut by stereotyping and assuming guilt, you go right ahead and do that exact same thing you're mad at the protestors for doing. But of course when you do it, it's different, anyone can see that...

 

I'm not sure why I have to defend Obama's use of drones? Are you assuming because of what I'm arguing in this thread that I am an Obama supporter who is A-okay with bombing anyone with an Arabic last name? And even if I was an Obama supporter, which I'm really not, would that mean I automatically agree with his use of drones?

You might want to rephrase your reply in a form that doesn't make silly assumptions or asks me to defend something I've never expressed support for in the first place.

 

My point is, it's called Guilty by Association. The protesters may not all be rioters, but they sure as hell are protecting them. Tell me one protester turning in one of the rioters that he or she saw burning down a business, or robbing a store.

We will wait.

 

Exactly, there is a lot more going on here than just a protest over a single incident.

 

It's called guilt by laziness. You're free to make your decisions that way obviously, just don't expect people who value critical thinking to put any more value on your hasty stereotypes and assumptions than they would a bucket of old poop.

 

Laziness? Now you're just making a desperate attempt to cover for them. Why aren't the PROTESTERS condemning the rioters? Why aren't the protesters protesting against the violence?

Your hilarious ASSUMPTION of why they are covering for the racists is exactly why the African American community is in a lot of trouble image-wise.

 

he did, but being shot, bleeding and out of breath, he could not keep them up long enough to please the officer

it's kinda like the cop that tazed a unarmed women on a cell phone and then ordered her to put her hands behind her back, she couldn't cause she was just tazed, so whats he do.... tazed her again

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People are rioting under the guise of "peaceful protesting" it's pretty clear which ones are doing the protesting



boy protesting, holding a "free hugs" sign.


and which ones are rioting



Micheal Browns step dad shouting "lets burn this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) down"


Peaceful protestors.....




Rioters.....







The problem is... often, it's the same person in both situations. Whenever you change from peaceful to rioting..... you can't complain when you take a billyclub upside the head or get arrested.


Race-baiters are great at not understanding the difference between a protest and a riot, and how a person can start protesting correctly, but then make it illegal when they start vandalizing property or stealing alcohol.

 

No group typically apologizes for or condemns their extremists. Show me one that does.

 

Muslims, Jews (recently, the Jewist ILR condemning many zionist incidents) are the two biggest extremist issue. Both of them condemn their crazies.

Granted, I'd love to see many MORE muslims condemn, but at least some are.

 

Lies again, the Grand Jury debunked those lies already. So.... what else ya got?

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Christians. They routinely openly frown upon any form of violence or hate mongering done in the name of Christ.

 

truth is irrelevant to race-baiters.

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I have YET to meet a Christian that supports westburo Baptist Church

 

Fair enough, but how loudly and how often? Not very often, and not loudly. Seems to me I've seen some Ferguson protesters doing the same. But again, not very often, and not very loudly.

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Oh really? It depends on who the object of their hate and violence is. No one seems to be losing sleep over what goes on in Russia, Uganda or Nigeria in the name of Christ. In fact, many say it should be the same way here.

 

Do you live on another planet? I know it just ruins your warped scenario, but according to 3 autopsy reports, he did NOT have his hands up, he was charging like a football player ready to make a tackle. In fact, I know this is hard for you to believe, but witnesses LIED about what happened. How do they know, you ask? The autopsy reports refute their version. They lied to get whitey in trouble. Thank God for the good and honest people of Ferguson...why are Libs on the WRONG side of EVERY argument??