Syria & Russia Advance On Aleppo

Because they weren't asked.

Also, when this first started, it was an internal matter. Then everyone started promoting their own interests in Syria and it blew up into something much bigger. This is what gave ISIS the opportunity to establish themselves in Syria in the first place.

But, didn't Russia offer a political solution back in 2012, but was ignored? Funny now how that is precisely where things are headed now that Russia has intervened. How many lives could have been saved and how many refugees would not have left if a political solution was seriously pursued earlier? Too bad that certain countries had a different agenda; that of making Syria another failed state.

 

What was russia's political solution? Give assad family dynasty another 50 years of oppressive rule? Russia's agenda here is to keep its poodle in power, regardless of what the syrian public wants, which is why it keeps relentlessly bombing the moderate, democracy-seeking FSA and ignoring the jihadist elements like ISIS.

 

In 2012 there was an Arab plan for peace in Syria, but it involved that Assad resigned ... guess what ... the UN resolution had vetoed by China and Russia. If China and Russia didn't veto UN resolution and took part to the international effort ...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/04/assad-obama-resign-un-resolution

 

Oh, great. After importing weapons and jihadis into Syria, the Arabs want to impose a diktat onto Assad.

It couldn't have anything to do with that memorandum of understanding between Syria and Iran over that pipeline, now could it?

Such transparent hypocrisy. Try again.

 

Saudi Arabia and the GCC are sheltering a half million Syrian refugees who have been there about 2 years now and they aren't in camps.

 

Syria had five years of drought before the civil war started and the farmers deserted the land.. Syria has many, many problems with over population, poverty, sectarian strife.. Its a disaster.

 

None of those problems were helped by sending weapons and jihadis there, either.

 

Assad has dealt with the Syrian people by killing them.

Its a Dust Bowl.. all the topsoil has blown away.

Oil production has been basically shut down for a decade and there are no jobs.

 

[video=youtube;W3ZLYUvAZvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ZLYUvAZvs[/video]

 

Russia is hosting over two million refugees from Ukraine, thanks to the coup in Kiev, and it is taking in refugees from Syria as well. It doesn't want a welfare state though, and since its priorities are the five thousand migrant workers that are being processed everyday from the Central Asia States, it doesn't need anymore uneducated workers. They will only take in the highly educated ones.

The EU will be building a facility for the refugees to stay at in Greece until they can be distributed throughout Europe. There is a lot of resentment about it though, since it will remind them of the German concentration camps... And they certainly don't want any visits from the German or EU bureaucrats.

 

WWIII started in 2012 in Syria, and the situation has been getting worse everyday since then. My suggestion, watch Turkey. That's where the fireworks will be.

 

Right Margot, then Isis is pulling out sand, not oil from the wells. If Syria is so worthless, then why are you people so intent on taking it away from the Syrian people. Why don't you just leave it to those who value its beauty, its culture, and its history.

 

Oh then Turkey didn't have anything to do with the drought? As for it being a disaster...sorry, but that's not what the Syrian people are saying. Sorry Margot, I believe them, not you.

 

You should make a phone call to Saudi Arabia about this ...

In any case, you mean this ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline ... well, geopolitical considerations by KSA could suggest that a mess in Syria, delaying those works, could be an asset. Anyway note that a change of regime in Syria won't affect the project [it would be convenient for any regime at Damascus].

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I knew about Arab help for Syrians, but I still don't know about Russian aid for Syrian refugees ...

 

I see, it's a matter of geopolitical priorities ... Ukraine is a more important prey than Syria for Moscow. At the end at the Kremlin they know that Damascus can be only ally, while some pieces of Ukraine could [in perspective] be annexed by Russia.

So far Putin is playing quite well on the two chessboards, let's see how he will move his pieces.

 

So what's the status on Aleppo ?

Is it safe yet ?

 

Whereas the US goes in all guns blazing without being asked - and (*)(*)(*)(*)s it up big-time? It'd be amusing if it wasn't so negatively thought-provoking.

 

You mean if 2,000,000 Italians in Africa were being killed and ethnically cleansed, and Italy took them in and could not take in 2,000,000 Africans as well, they would be playing a chess game...or does that only hold true for Vladimir Putin and Russia? Interesting!

As for Ukraine, Russia went to great lengths to formulate the Minsk II agreements so that Novorussiya will remain a part of Ukraine...to the chagrin of the people living there, as well as many Russians. You should follow the news more closely, and not western disinformation and propaganda. The media is making fools of you people

 

Syrian oil production fell from 330,000 barrels to 78,000 barrels to 28,000 barrels.. So Syria really has no oil.

So tell me how are the moving this oil without pipelines?

Income has also fallen in Syria from $5,000 a year to $2700 a year.

So yes... Syria is a bloody mess.

Nobody want to TAKE Syria away from the Syrian people.. other than Israel who wants to expand to Damascus..

The Saudis don't want it. Who do you think wants it?

 

Syria is mostly desert.. The five year drought caused the topsoil on what fertile, arable land they had to blow away. The farmers abandoned their farms to look for work in the cities.. There is no work. There's also no gasoline or diesel to run farm equipment.

 

Yes Damascous was always our goal and more Muslims to take care of, God's willing we will reach Sudan and its eternal golden sand dunes, once you have enough sand and barbaric Muslims you are undefeated.

 

From Today's Zaman:

http://mobile.todayszaman.com/natio...ys-role-in-syrian-chemical-attack_402180.html

CHP deputies: Gov’t rejects probe into Turkey’s role in Syrian chemical attack

Two deputies from the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) have claimed that the government is against investigating Turkey’s role in sending toxic sarin gas which was used in an attack on civilians in Syria in 2013 and in which over 1,300 Syrians were killed.

CHP deputies Eren Erdem and Ali Şeker held a press conference in İstanbul on Wednesday in which they claimed the investigation into allegations regarding Turkey’s involvement in the procurement of sarin gas which was used in the chemical attack on a civil population and delivered to the terrorist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) to enable the attack was derailed.

Taking the floor first, Erdem stated that the Adana Chief Prosecutor’s Office launched an investigation into allegations that sarin was sent to Syria from Turkey via several businessmen. An indictment followed regarding the accusations targeting the government.

“The MKE [Turkish Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation] is also an actor that is mentioned in the investigation file. Here is the indictment. All the details about how sarin was procured in Turkey and delivered to the terrorists, along with audio recordings, are inside the file,” Erdem said while waving the file.

Erdem also noted that the prosecutor’s office conducted detailed technical surveillance and found that an al-Qaeda militant, Hayyam Kasap, acquired sarin, adding: “Wiretapped phone conversations reveal the process of procuring the gas at specific addresses as well as the process of procuring the rockets that would fire the capsules containing the toxic gas. However, despite such solid evidence there has been no arrest in the case. Thirteen individuals were arrested during the first stage of the investigation but were later released, refuting government claims that it is fighting terrorism,” Erdem noted.

Over 1,300 people were killed in the sarin gas attack in Ghouta and several other neighborhoods near the Syrian capital of Damascus, with the West quickly blaming the regime of Bashar al-Assad and Russia claiming it was a “false flag” operation aimed at making US military intervention in Syria possible.

Suburbs near Damascus were struck by rockets containing the toxic sarin gas in August 2013.

The purpose of the attack was allegedly to provoke a US military operation in Syria which would topple the Assad regime in line with the political agenda of then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his government.

CHP deputy Şeker spoke after Erdem, pointing out that the government misled the public on the issue by asserting that sarin was provided by Russia. The purpose was to create the perception that, according to Şeker, “Assad killed his people with sarin and that requires a US military intervention in Syria.”

He also underlined that all of the files and evidence from the investigation show a war crime was committed within the borders of the Turkish Republic.

“The investigation clearly indicates that those people who smuggled the chemicals required to procure sarin faced no difficulties, proving that Turkish intelligence was aware of their activities. While these people had to be in prison for their illegal acts, not a single person is in jail. Former prime ministers and the interior minister should be held accountable for their negligence in the incident,” Şeker further commented.

Erdem also added that he will launch a criminal complaint against those responsible, including those who issued a verdict of non-prosecution in the case, those who did not prevent the transfer of chemicals and those who first ordered the arrest of the suspects who were later released.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon announced in late August that an inquiry had been launched into the gas attacks allegedly perpetuated by both Assad’s Syrian regime and rebel groups fighting in Syria since the civil war erupted in 2011.

However, Erdem is not the only figure who has accused Turkey of possible involvement in the gas attack. Pulitzer Prize winner and journalist, Seymour M. Hersh, argued in an article published in 2014 that MİT was involved with extremist Syrian groups fighting against the Assad regime.

In his article, Hersh said Assad was not behind the attack, as claimed by the US and Europe, but that Turkish-Syrian opposition collaboration was trying to provoke a US intervention in Syria in order to bring down the Assad regime.

 

I have been reading about hyper-zionism among settlers in the West Bank.. They want MORE land .. all the way to Damascus..

What do you suppose Bibi wants?

Why has he pushed for the isolation and destabilizion of Syria since 1996?

Its a real problem to have a failed state on your border.. You'd think that Israel would want Syria to develop their power grid and infrastructure.

 

You're ignoring the fact that Assad first rejected the Qatari pipeline before accepting the Iranian one.

 

Saudi Arabia doesn't want a pipeline thru Syria... They had Tapline for 25 years.. Now they go east west to SUMED.