What is white privilege?

if you find it let me know

 

No further questions. . . . . I rest my case.

 

You are welcome.

A lot of white people go around saying they are not racist and then get accused of being racist anyway. And they probably are.

But whether they are or not, black people are not going to let them off the hook.

Perpetual accusations of racism mean perpetual concessions from the people in charge. And I bet black people get a thrill out of pushing white people around.

Me, I won't play that game.

And, I figure, might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

 

Since when have facts become slurs except in liberal lala land. Camden, Gary, E. St. Louis, Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Birmingham etc etc all prove my point. Then there is liberal run Chicago, a city that is only 1/3 Black yet is within reach for setting an all time homicide rate for month of January, virtually all of it brought to you by African Americans.

 

A welfare program that is so poorly designed as to increase the numbers of unwed mothers as drastically as the one in the US has is either a mark of extreme incompetence or extreme malevolence.

The requirement of providing social services without blame or criticism is valid to a point, but has led to the deprivation of millions from any sense that their behavior is self defeating. People need values and standards to follow to help them avoid self destruction. How this could best be provided is problematic, but some sort of confrontation is eventually necessary even in therapy, and IMO it should not always have to descend to the level of supporting a woman through five pregnancies and then cutting her off financially in middle age.

Since, in addition, IMO it is almost impossible to do a good job of raising even one child single-handedly in our culture, I consider women that put themselves in that position to be either immoral or stupid, and I resent their effect on the future of their children, as well as our economy and my taxes.

I guess I find both equally disgusting.

Hanging around in an inner city slum IMO bears some resemblance to tribal life in Africa; the only problem with it is that our infrastructure, including housing arrangement and design' does not enable a tribal support system as far as childcare, hunting, and crop raising go, and presents financial problems that also do not appear to exist in rural Africa today (except, my understanding is, eg, natives' protein source of peanuts is being taxes away to support large cities such as Dakkar).

If many American blacks don't accept the middle class values usually considered necessary to succeed in our dominant culture, possibly they could come up with other systems, but they need to be self sustaining, and they need to realize that such structures might not support the acquisition of as many material goods as they might like to have from the larger economy. It appears that is waning for most of us anyway, though.

IMO many blacks are able to find more emotional support in the black community than most poor whites are in theirs, so I don't know if non-acceptance by whites is as much of an issue as some whites seem to think. It has certainly not kept savvy upper class and middle class blacks from moving to the suburbs.

Your input of course has some merit, but in the real world you cannot expect most whites to have the therapeutic skills and understanding necessary to properly address black issues, and even if in the rare exception some did it would often be experienced as condescension and false sympathy.

IMO it's also unrealistic to expect whites to appreciate black anger any more than it is to expect blacks to appreciate whites acting out against them.

What most people need when they wish to change is appropriate feedback. Although blacks in the inner city slum miasma may not always find the feedback of middle class blacks and whites to their liking, the bottom line is that they will for the most part find it very, very difficult to improve their general situation if they don't train themselves to hear the feedback as feedback and not criticism. Much of it may be meant as criticism, but it doesn't have to be taken that way. Much of it is well meant and accurate.

Everyone ought to be treated with respect, but people who wish to be equal need to take equal responsibility, and many who indulge in selfish, self-defeating relationships and lifestyles will find that there are many who have difficulty respecting them. The best route to respect is to first respect yourself and the people you deal with, particularly your own mate/s and child/ren.

In the US middle class values have usually been the route to personal and financial progress for most of those starting from the bottom. Such people as the Kennedy ancestors may occasionally short circuit the process with illegal actions, and the wins can be big, but the costs to society are high and are not routinely rewarded.

I do think black American culture has things to offer to the wider community that have not been generally recognized. From what I have seen, there is more cooperation and sharing, for one thing, and there may be many other things. Soul food is really good, but at least where I live this has not been capitalized upon. Some drug dealers could be recruited to work in drug dispensaries if drug legalization ever takes place....It really could be possible that certain structural things are not developing for deliberately detrimental reasons, or it may be that blacks as a whole are coming from a place where they are not ready to advocate for positive change yet. Inciting people to kill police is not positive...insisting on fairness is...

Hispanics in my area are already having little street fairs where they sell favorite foods, etc; I know some black churches have done prepared meals as fundraisers, but some reachout to the larger community might lead to some interesting developments...

 

The term "undisputed" in the scientific community refers to whether there is a conflicting study where a significant difference in results is found. It does not refer to an opinion of "I don't like the results" but instead refers to conflicting data on the same subject matter.

The studies referred to in my signature identifying explict anti-black racial prejudice is summarized in the following:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/27/racial-prejudice-worsened-obama

While there are many that have the opinion that these studies are invalid there are no conflicting studies that would dispute the results. In science it requires a conflicting study and not just an opinion to dispute the results.

We have the same problem with AGW. Every scientist admits that global warming has occurred over the last 100-150 years. The measurements record this global warming and the measurements are not in dispute. The problem for the AGW deniers is that there are no scientific models that account for this change based exclusively on natural causes. Only when the effects of greenhouse gases created by man and deforestation are included is the amount of global warming accounted for. There are no studies that dispute AGW, only opinion.

We know that racial prejudice exists and studies exist that quantifiy it such as the AP study and the studies are undisputed because there are no studies that reflect significantly different results. Since the AP study was released I've repeatedly challenged those that deny the results to provide any study that reaches a different quantifiable percentage of those with anti-black racial prejudice.

If it's not 79% of Republicans that express explicit anti-black racial prejudice then what percentage do and based upon what study? Show me the study thar disputes the AP study results. What percentage of Republicans express explicit anti-black racial prejudice and what scientific study determined this?

 

It proves facts that white privilege is real. That is what matters.

 

It says rather clearly in my source:
"In the two years after the Booker ruling, sentences of blacks were on average 15.2% longer than the sentences of similarly situated whites, according to the Sentencing Commission report."

You got a major problem in comprehending what you read when you claim this has nothing to do with similarity of situations.

It's according to the Sentencing Commission report and not the editor.
It says so right in the source. I put it in the read in the previous post in red.
You really are a very poor poster when you missed that by now.

 

Are there any pure black or white people anymore? There has been alot of mixing of all ethnicities. I doubt anyone is purely black or purely white so anything that has to do with a person's appearance should be considered bigotry. Anyone claiming people have privilege because they happen to be white in appearance is judging based on a bigoted point of view.

 

since they contain no facts but the arian race unfounded ideology.

The police force of Chicago, that is predominantly white, have either made "a mistake" or intentionally destroyed parts of their dash cam vids so 80% of their dash-cams got no sound. A result of that, is that 1 of them white cops tortured over 200 people, and he received just 4 years of jail for that. That's how the white and privileged roll.

 

Except...
It's a fact that white people get more service in hospitals.
It's a fact that white people get shorter sentences than black people in similar situations.
And even white names got a bigger chance on the job markets.

That's has nothing to do with judging based on a bigoted point of view.
That is just data saying how it is. And it proves white privilege is real.

 

Please, that's anecdotal and according to whom? You? BLM? Nothing but fantasy. But here are some real facts. Unofficial homicide score in Chicago for the month of January is now 57, with the early morning box score yet to be counted. Virtually all of it brought to you by Blacks.

 

Oh heck no. There is an entire topic on this forum devoted to the chicago police destroying their recording equipment on massive scale. Yet the city of chicago pays like 50 million dollars A YEAR to pay victims of police brutality, and have been paying that amount EVERY YEAR for at least a decade. That a white cop only got 4 years for torturing over 200 people and make them confess they murdered people etc is also real.

Ah yeash.. lets blame black people for what the police force of Chicago does.
Your racists rants have no limits.

 

Blacks assault, rob, rape, shoot and kill Blacks and other people in large numbers in Chicago. Fact and without dispute. I'll put the blame where it belongs, on the people that pull the trigger.

 

Fact is that the predominate white police force are acting criminally by deliberately destroying their own equipment so we can't know what they are doing, while the city has paid well over half a billion in damages in the last decade. And the cherry on the cake is a white Chicago cop torturing over 200 people and only got 4 years for that. White privilege right there.

It's just like white names got a privilege on the job market. White people get more service in hospitals. And white people get shorter sentences in jail. Heck, the even are the bigger drug users out there, yet black people get arrested over that far more often.

That all is white privilege.
And all you can do is act like an ostrich and yell it aint true.

 

Good lord almighty that is not any sort of privilege that is standard Chicago style corruption. It's been that way for a 100 years or more including the Brief period of time in which Chicago had a Black Mayor slightly post the Dalys. In Chicago it is noteworthy that he got four years instead of a medal for a job well done.

 

I grew up in the segregated south. And if being white is having a target on one's back, I would suggest you stay out of high crime black areas where you would be a target for crime.

But if you are attempting to play the white victimhood card, you just pulled out a joker and laid that down. Or a midnight toker.

 

Chelsea Clinton: a significant beneficiary of white privilege.

 

What facts?

 

Actually, decades of studies support that being white in appearance increases your chances in this country when it comes to job interviews, housing, lenient sentencing, getting a warning instead of a citation, etc. In fact, studies have shown that appearing white makes people more likely to trust you and have a positive impression of you despite knowing nothing else about you.

 

Thank you.

What you said about feedback is the point I have been trying to make all along.

Provocation ignites sensitivity, and racial generalizations are offensive and hurtful, embittering the innocent, and often used by offenders as justification for antisocial behavior. Bigotry promotes and perpetuates the behaviors you despise, and although we can't stop it, we should not defend and encourage it.

When a poster states that whites are more likely to be offered jobs than blacks because statistically they are smarter, and then complains that too many blacks are unemployed, what is wrong with that argument?

"You can't judge a book by its cover." Is it different with people?

Of course, we should encourage ALL people to be more responsible, but POSITIVE feedback may be more effective.

 

I've never complained that blacks are unemployed, although others do to be sure.

I recognize that very many blacks are unemployable and will end up being maintained by the state, often in prison.

I judge books by their covers all the time. I never even open a book with a picture of Fabio ripping a bodice on its cove.

 

Yet Blacks still manage to kill each other in large numbers. Go figure. The excuse never end and for most of us it's getting old. Maybe the best reparation should be repatriation.

 

I never mentioned you. Your ego does not need to be fed.

 

Why don't you read those "studies" by yourself.
Your sources have combined two absolutely independent events about equal sentences for similarly situated cases and racial disparity presented in the statistical report.
Then they presented you a brilliant conclusion article in the WSJ about rampant racism in U.S.
Those who wants civil war and mass killing in this country did a very good job.