So it Begins: This State Forces LGBT “Accommodation” Rules on its Churches

It has been done away with already. You will not find sanctioned religious sermons going on in your local locker room or gym which you have to put up with. Their beliefs need to stay where they arent imposing themselves on others.


So now that we have disposed of that falsehood...any legitimate reason why we all need to play along with gender fantasy, which goes against the commonplace segregation going on in our society?

 

An when we can change the DNA on such a scale you will then support people being the sex that they feel they should had born to be?

Your problem in other word is with the current degree of our technology?

 

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I agree. However, it should not be a government that perverts and corrupts what the people consider discrimination should encompass. Anyways, at this point, Obama's rules are temporarily unenforceable. Now mind you, the judge here is ruling only on the lawsuit that 13 states have joined in on. There are other class-action and private lawsuits that have been launched as a result of Obama's action. This is headed for SCOTUS. On this particular case, if the supreme court becomes deadlocked, the lower court's ruling prevails. The injunction against implementing Obama's rules becomes permanent.

 

you would have a point, but our justice system is not based off Christian law.

 

Ill worry about that bridge IF we ever get to it in my lifetime.I only brought it up to point out the utter falsehood of this dangerous masquerade

No, ive been quite clear. There is no need for you to rewrite it in other words. This belief is a falsehood, much like other delusions of the mind that we dont play along with. You dont appease a mental delusion and call it treatment. If we did, well some people would get 6 licenses, and others would get out of paying taxes and other things expected of a Human being in society.

 

Commonplace segregation used to be blacks and whites too and we did away with that. Religious symbols continue to be on my money and on public buildings. Why is that delusion allowed?

 

We have freedom of religion in this country. My feeling is that churches should lose their tax exempt status and be allowed to practice their religion as they see fit barring animal or people sacrifice or other already egregious violations of the law. I do not believe it's the governments job to force religious organizations to cater to homosexuals with an agenda. The best thing homosexuals can do is avoid going to religious places that don't support homosexuality. We do not need the government to decide what religions can believe

 

Blacks and Whites again...as if it's simply a state of mind to be Black....

If you ran out of responses , just say so and move on. Dont keep tossing around the same inapplicable scenarios that were already debunked.

Noone is forcing you to partake in religion. You have a freedom of religion, but noone can guarantee you wont bump into some religious material form time to time. What you ARE guaranteed is that you will not have to endure an unwanted religious sermon in your locker rooms, schoolrooms and bathrooms.

 

Yes indeed a small fraction of the population is a threat to a majority of the population that are Christian.

The achievement of equal rights for women was delay for 40 years thanks to the used of the so call bathroom issue to keep the ERA from passing by a few states.

We should no longer allow anyone else to be harm by the used of this silly issue.

 

And no one is forcing you to support or encourage transexuals. I am glad we agree.

 

We dont agree with that false statement at all , because Transgenders ARE being forced on us, and our kids. If they werent this thread and our discussion wouldnt be here.

 

How do you justify taking away churches non profit tax exemption while continuing it for the Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, GLAD? Or any other non profit? Sounds like discrimination against religion.

 

No more so than religion which is forced on us every day.

 

We just debunked that. Religion is not forced upon you at all. Why do you feel compelled to lie? This tells me you have nothing further.

 

Yes I was wondering that too. Why ARE you compelled to lie?

 

Ahhh, the unmistakable sign of a defeated argument...but a guy who just has to have the last word. The ole "I know you are but what am I" reply.


Anyway, I know thats all you had, you know thats all you had so if you'd like the last word feel free.

 

I graciously accept your defeat

 

I wouldn't be so certain. I see the logic of gay marriage coming to the bathroom issue. We had "forever" limited marriage to men and women. Upheld as perfectly constitutional because the limitation to men and women, was rationally related to serving the legitimate governmental interest improving the wellbeing of children that only men and women are legally obligated to provide and care for. No compelling interest was required. So the courts changed the facts. Alleging that marriages limitation to men and women had nothing to do with the wellbeing of children and was instead all just a nefarious plot to "disparage and injure" homosexuals. Disparaging and injuring homosexuals isn't a legitimate governmental interest and so therefore requires a "COMPELLING" interest to do so without offending the constitution.
The argument is coming, that this practice of segregating men and womens bathrooms has nothing to do with the differences between men and women and is instead all just a nefarious plot to "disparage and injure" transgenders, therefore requiring a "Compelling" governmental interest in doing so, to avoid violating the Constitution.

 

Look up blue laws - religion is absolutely forced on society.
The vast majority of issues against gay rights exist because of religion.

It's absurd to try to paint religion as "minding its own business"

 

schools do not have to take tax payer money if they do not want to treat all tax payers children equally

a tie does not become permanent, good or bad, it just means the supreme court could not decide and another case will have to reach the supreme court

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Whatever turns your crank.

 

not sure what you mean by that, could you explain?

 

And the ones that don't involved religion? What about them and the lack of a shred of proof on the side of homosexuality that its condition is anything more complicated than how someone's personality develops?

 

Race has absolutely no correlation with sexual preference and to pretend it does greatly insults the struggle of slavery in this country.